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this is so tiresome. haskell is not some esoteric specialist language. probably neither is Lisp tbh, i just haven't learned much Lisp yet.

Oh man. I hear you. You are doing as much as anyone to fix these misconceptions, so you at least can feel no guilt

As someone who's been using haskell for work for over a decade, who's set up dozens upon dozens of Haskell meetups, and who is a strong proponent of Haskell, I agree that it is by far not some esolang, but saying "this is objectively wrong" is just stroking your own ego.

I'll be honest with you, this kind of stuff alienates and scares people away. You're not doing a great job of improving the message and outreach of fp.

Hmmm. Thanks, food for thought. I stand by "objective": countless beginners have found it perfectly suitable, in no small part thanks to the good work of people like you. There's no wiggle room there. I don't see how my ego's fingerprints are on this one, though

The form is part of the message.

Help me out here, what's the problem - "objectively"? More hedging or softening required? I'm not trying to attack or persuade the author, I'm trying to encourage us (the FP community) to improve our comms, which I think is what you're saying too; perhaps my eye has a log in it

It positions you as an Infallible Judge of Things which is probably not what you wanted.

Thanks for your feedback, in any case. I'll have a think

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