CS professors: I'm curious about the impact of institutional prestige on getting your students who want them faculty jobs. Especially professors who have been at two institutions of differing prestige.
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And when there was a difference, how big? And how could you make up for it? Postdocs are one way. What about visits at or collaborations with other universities? Helping your student create a recognizable individual brand? What else helped?
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Also, what schools were you at where you noticed a difference? Were you able to have students climb the prestige ladder, if they wanted to? How far up?
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This question by the way is for gathering anecdotes to help me make sense of possible choices for faculty jobs and how much to weigh prestige versus other factors I already know a lot about. And possibly strategies for succeeding after I accept a job, depending on where I go
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Fascinating discussion so far, seems like no easy answers!
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A lot of folks talk about "individual prestige" or "advisor prestige." What makes an advisor prestigious? Could I be that advisor?
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BTW disagreement, questions, opinions here are mostly me rubber duckying the future of my life, so don't be surprised if they're incoherent, flexible, confused, and inconsistent.
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If it gets to "put yourself first" this comment is relevant, that is the only conversation I may not handle well here since I think it's a symptom of the American patriarchy
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I don't really like these conversations because they always seem to land on American masculine norms 
and feminine cultural norms are coherent in themselves---the idea is everyone helps each other rather than themselves. You each put on each other's masks
and feminine cultural norms are coherent in themselves---the idea is everyone helps each other rather than themselves. You each put on each other's masks1
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I'm more likely to work hard to change academia in CS to be more feminine, or at least more compatible with feminine cultural norms, than I am to assimilate into a culture made by men for men 😅
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I also would love to see this for programming too! Had enough of hyper-masculine spaces growing up in high school. Things were better in art school, and doing design, but then it was a step-back going into tech.