Software should not be like this. There’s no reason for it. Programmers are just terrible designers and Nix is a perfect example. t.co/2Y4SUphKvv
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I pretty much agree, with the exception of how "Programmers are just terrible designers" is framed. I'd more say that programmers often do design in a way that's not very intentional - accidental even. And that is incredibly frustrating as a user.
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Sure, the design is an afterthought if that. By terrible designers I mean they don't consider design issues. In addition, some programmers have a hostile view of design and think that obtuse software is somehow better.
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This doesn't apply to the majority of Nix users but it definitely applies to some of them.
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And, I should say, it also doesn't apply to the majority of Haskell users but definitely applies to some of them.
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Yeah, I really struggle with some of the choices made in the Haskell and OCaml tooling - like, I want to use the languages, it's just often easier to use cargo, even if Rust isn't a perfect fit for my problem. I know cargo has issues of it's own, but it is at least usable.
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For what it's worth I think they seem to be learning and making progress. Hopefully it won't be like this forever - I have hope! 😅
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I also think the situation is gradually improving! Even nix people seem to be aware of the problems. But it doesn't stop me from being intensely frustrated right now
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Yeah I hear you. Been in similar lows of frustration trying to figure out Cabal 3.0 and Opam 2.0 - even with some of the improvements things fail to build confusingly with weird conflicts. I've been dippping my toes into the nix waters and it's definitely really intimidating too.