Conversation

I'd be more comfortable if they'd actually opened up the implementation of

@VulkanAPI

. Thankfully MoltenVK exists, and is OSS thanks to Khronos. No thanks to Apple though... 🙄😠

For those interested: github.com/KhronosGroup/M - here's hoping it works as advertised! If it does I really don't see any benefit at all to locking oneself into Metal at this stage.

jordwalke

@jordwalke

Now, is there a good way to get this API running on WebGL?

I'm guessing Apple would have to keep OpenGL around in webkit. You can use MoltenGL if you still want to keep the same code between the web and your native build, but I believe that's still proprietary... moltengl.com/moltengl/

Webkit would most likely be doing something similar internally in the future. Will be interesting what the other browser engines will have to do to maintain WebGL compatibility on macOS...

jordwalke

@jordwalke

3:04 AM · Jun 5, 2018Twitter Web Client

Hopefully Apple makes this part of WebKit official supported as a gesture of good will. I mean we live in a world where Microsoft acquired github. Anything can happen.

Replying to

and

Yeah, I'd hope. But Apple hasn't shown itself to be the same OSS steward like Microsoft has become. I mean, part of me is grateful that OpenGL is being deprecated - it's a terribly old, ugly API. The annoying thing is more that they haven't provided a standards-based alternative.

Replying to

and

From what I hear it was a miracle of chance that we even ended up with a standardized cross platform graphics API that become somewhat popular. To expect it to happen a second time when everyone is incentivized against it might be too optimistic.

Don Olmstead

@don_olmstead

There’s WebGPU which you could probably build WebGL on top of webkit.org/blog/7380/next

Show replies

Replying to

and

I’m not sure I buy this. LLDB powers a huge number of projects and Apple’s sponsorship is a huge reason why. Same with WebKit/Chromium (forked from WebKit). Swift has been completely open development since it was announced. Apple is making serious contributions.

Ian Ragsdale, he/him

@iragsdale