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As long as the associations are voluntary, as long as no force is involved, it's libertarian. Collectivism VS. Individualism is entirely a preference. Either can be libertarian. Either can be antithetical to libertarianism. Apples and oranges.
And the fundamental point of libertarianism is individual liberty. It’s always about the individual. I don’t agree that collectivism vs individualism is just a preference. Collectives can exist, but if the fundamental individualism isn’t there, then you don’t have libertarianism
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Then you must not understand libertarianism fully. Maybe you do, but you're projecting your own preferences onto it.
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Maybe we’re approaching this from different spaces. Collectivism by definition is a political governing ideology. I’m not talking about people having groups with similar interests. It’s going to be state initiated. There will be force and coercion.
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