But you didn't say GTA. You said "video games". But as you're going with that argument, could you show me how the satirical universe of the GTA games is ideologically the same as the incel or white supremacists movement, with the same goals?
If you platform or allow the platform of violent, hateful or harmful ideologies, there's plenty of proof (hence; incel terrorism, or even Islamic terrorism if you count the extremist forums of the 00's) leads to the spread and creation of adherents who could commit violent acts.
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Yeah sure so let's censor racists so they can sneak under our nose and so we can never know what they actually believe until the point is too late. Let them go underground so they can create their own echochamber and avoid any refutation.
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But they do that anyway. They've done it for years. Societal norms even without censorship means they do this. Deplatforming people has worked - see Milo Yannapoulis' current state of destruction. The echochamber only expands with platforming, which they currently have.
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Unless you want to show me studies showing the complete opposite... I mean, we all know about Fox News, right? How does freedom of expression not just create a wider echochamber? I don't see any exchange of ideas when people self-ghettoise.
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Freedom of expression means people can watch Fox, CNN, MSNBC, it means that there is a plurality of ideas out there for you to go and find and investigate. Compare that to a place without freedom of expression where you have one deeply problematic state network, the answers clear
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My point is that under US freedoms, malignant societies have already coalesced in the form of the currently extremely vocal white supremacist, alt-right movements etc. So the idea that somehow the marketplace of ideas drowns out and recedes them doesn't hold water.
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It doesn't drown them out, it exposes them. Regarding the alt-right I don't mean to big myself up but I've had a lot of alt-right friends, even my Dad who I've brought back from the brink. I'd argue my article has done way more than simply shouting at the altright has ever done.
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But we already know who these people are within the limits of expression under the law we currently have. Otherwise we wouldn't even be having this conversation. We already have an amount of freedom of expression that exposes them and a law system that takes it into account.
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I'll keep an eye out for your responses but I have to hit this work as I have a deadline. But it's actually been pretty good debating with you. Thanks. We don't agree and likely won't see eye-to-eye, but hey. We do what we can within the limits we have. ;)
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I genuinely don't understand how anyone can argue against that fact, when you have proof of the ideological spread of extremism through platforming (the NRA, for example, again) quite literally popping up nearly every week. If anything, it's wildly naive.
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