The overwhelming majority of arrests involve crimes with no identifiable “sheep” or with physically absent “sheep” (car break ins, etc)
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Fed”? It’s my job... and it’s not a secret. Go sit in an arraignment part for 20 minutes.
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Also tbc I didn’t say “without a victim id’d.” I said the victim isn’t present for the crime. eg, most larceny/burglary has a victim, but if the victim is present, the top (reported) charge is usually robbery. 1.5-2M arrests per year (out of 12M) fit that definition.
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But also total arrests with any identifiable victim is no more than 3-4million, again out of an annual 12million arrests. Most are victimless misdemeanors (disorderly conduct, vandalism, drugs, loitering, DUI, etc)
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Minor quibble, I wouldn't call DUI victimless. Everyone they endanger with DUI is a victim.
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That’s an absurd definition of victim.
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In the same way it would be absurd to say that someone who had a knife on their throat but didn't actually get cut is a victim.
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No. Arguably other occupants of the car—or, at most, other drivers/peds who feel directly threatened—may claim victimhood. But extending it to "everyone endangered" makes a joke out of the word. People experience risk in varying amts every day; they are not constantly victims.
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You might say "there are no victimless crimes" bc the rule of law/the state/society suffers a deprivation when one breaks the rules. But I think there are better ways to talk about the social interest in rule-following than lumping everyone w/ those who experience real harm.
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