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    1. Boris Mann‏ @bmann Nov 2
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      Boris Mann Retweeted brianbehlendorf

      End of a thread of @brianbehlendorf giving commentary on @BobSummerwill's proposed changes to the ETC improvement process to add patent / IP protection. Lots of devs would like to not care about licensing and legal terms - but like many other unintended consequences, we have to!https://twitter.com/brianbehlendorf/status/1190589921335136256 …

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      brianbehlendorf @brianbehlendorf
      Replying to @brianbehlendorf @BobSummerwill and 2 others
      All of that presents a danger to end users. If you don't care about your end users, fine, put out code or specs with terms that don't protect them from potential abusers who would use your good will as subterfuge for their ends. Kudos to Bob for caring about ETC users. 7/12
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    2. Boris Mann‏ @bmann Nov 2
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      And yes, I do believe the #ethereum #EIP process should do pretty much the exact same thing See @EthMagicians thread I started in March https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/patent-covenant-for-eip-submissions/2901 … And Github issuehttps://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/1840 …

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    3. nick.eth‏ @nicksdjohnson Nov 2
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      Replying to @bmann @brianbehlendorf and

      I am not a patent lawyer, but I don't believe this provides any meaningful patent protection. Anyone wanting to get a standard set that relies on a patent they hold could simply get a stooge to write and promote it for them.

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    4. nick.eth‏ @nicksdjohnson Nov 2
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      Further, licenses like APL are intended for code, not standards, and it's unclear that an implementation of a standard would be a "derivative work" and thus covered.

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    5. nick.eth‏ @nicksdjohnson Nov 2
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      Replying to @nicksdjohnson @bmann and

      Honestly, without an IP lawyer, we're stumbling in the dark, and the chance anything we come up with is useful is low. We should just hire one and do what they suggest.

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      Boris Mann‏ @bmann Nov 2
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      Replying to @nicksdjohnson @brianbehlendorf and

      Sure. That’s what I suggested in the original issue. EF doesn’t seem to care. Brian, who is with the Linux Foundation and Hyperledger, who have consulted patent lawyers, have ended up in a similar place. Apache etc was about code samples, not the spec.

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        2. nick.eth‏ @nicksdjohnson Nov 2
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          Replying to @bmann @brianbehlendorf and

          Can you clarify what you mean by "a similar place"? What did hyperledger do?

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        3. Boris Mann‏ @bmann Nov 2
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          Developer Certificate of Origin, Apache for code, CC-BY for docs. See their charter for details. They are code centric not spec centric, so a little different.

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        2. Bob Summerwill‏ @BobSummerwill Nov 2
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          The EF should have done that in 2016. Indeed should have done it in 2014. Doing so in 2019 would be the next best thing. @VitalikButerin @mi_ayako @virgilgr 👋 In 2016, @Hyperledger were kind enough to pay for an hour or two of consultation with Eben Moglen and @MishiChoudhary.

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          Happy to help anytime. @sflc exists to help.

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