We *might* be simulated by some machine entity creation of which might be driven by some capitalist process -- but it doesn't take Nick Land to grasp that point.
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @biodysphoria
I'm so angry that people read this stuff and think this is something profound...
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @biodysphoria
What's worse, this is exactly the same obscurantist trick employed by the uber-annoying postmodern-era thinkers where their fans go "omg you don't understand this complete piece of litterature /pun intentional/, so don't criticize what you don't understand"
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Do you mean to tell me I'm just imagining things because I'm retarded? Why don't you just block me instead of insulting/spamming my timeline? A little intellectual humility would seem to be in order, especially you aren't familiar with either Land or his sources.
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Replying to @biodysphoria @Locus_of_Ctrl
I’m happy to keep engaging with you, but only on the condition of good faith. Land is in any case less willfully obscure than Heidegger. The second essay I recced might be better for you since you have some point of reference.
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Replying to @biodysphoria @Locus_of_Ctrl
You misread the core concept of the essay. The machinic unconscious is "the auto-production of the real," i.e. nothing exists except as it is produced by "machines,”as as thermodynamic gradients, or as complex as the human body, or as abstract as capital.
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Replying to @biodysphoria @Locus_of_Ctrl
The machinic unconscious has existed and will exist for as long as difference (i.e. thermodynamic gradient) exists. Machinic desire is affirmation of difference.
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This primary production is more fundamental to the “real” than secondary processes like “consciousness" or “care.” To stake all value on the secondary is an idealist confusion.
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Replying to @biodysphoria @Locus_of_Ctrl
Exclusive focus on the secondary process leaves us closed to the unknown (or “completely unrecognizable”) possibilities lurking in the machinic unconscious, trapped in the death-bound individuated ego.
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simpolism Retweeted After Sol
And yet, are we not phenomenologically "trapped" in the individuated ego, or at least beholden to the limits of our sensory organs?https://twitter.com/Locus_of_Ctrl/status/1012233300272766976 …
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After Sol @Locus_of_CtrlReplying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @biodysphoriaAlso note that from the very first paragraph Nick Land is not on the side of humans -- he considers biology to be equivalent to "security apparatus" or something. It's a completely inconsistent way of thinking -- per Heidegger -- being human, Land cannot transcend himself.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
The individuated ego is good heuristic to describe the relatively autonomous human brain (when not on psychedelics). But non-individuated consciousness can exist if we can invent hardware for it to run on. And we can become free by dying--nothing is annihilated, only disorganized
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Replying to @biodysphoria @Locus_of_Ctrl
Yes, this is the Jaynesian take: we can train ourselves to hear the voice of the Gods, if only a structure were in place to train us to hear Him. But as Jaynes describes, the only difference between this God and that God is legitimacy, necessarily granted by others...
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Why would I pick a Landian God, worshipped by such a small population, when the Abrahamic Gods carry such greater weight? The reason would be if I felt uniquely sympathetic to their cause, which is itself ironically a choice that one can only make through the individuated ego.
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