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Google Cloud. Kubernetes Steering Committee emeritus, K8s SIG Architecture co-Chair emeritus, CNCF TOC member emeritus

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    1. Matt Klein‏ @mattklein123 1 Jun 2017
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      So we learn from others either way. With right mentorship and for right project, c++ incredibly productive. 3/

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    2. Matt Klein‏ @mattklein123 1 Jun 2017
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      Also, our industry does a TERRIBLE job of evaluating true long term TCO. Again for right project c++ TCO is excellent. 4/

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    3. Matt Klein‏ @mattklein123 1 Jun 2017
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      In the end, it's all about TCO which depends on team, project, tooling, libraries, etc. c++ not for many (most?) things 5/

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    4. Matt Klein‏ @mattklein123 1 Jun 2017
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      But for some projects, there is still no substitute that leads to better long term TCO. end/

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    5. Joe Beda‏Verified account @jbeda 1 Jun 2017
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      To be clear, no one claimed that programs written in go are better. I was just agreeing with diagram that learning curve is steeper.

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    6. Joe Beda‏Verified account @jbeda 1 Jun 2017
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      Totally agree that there are places where C/C++ are appropriate. But those lines shift over time.

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    7. Matt Klein‏ @mattklein123 1 Jun 2017
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      Agreed on both points. Mostly, I just wish we took a more analytical and less feeling based approach to choosing project tooling.

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    8. Joe Beda‏Verified account @jbeda 1 Jun 2017
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      FWIW -- here is an older post on why we picked go for k8s: https://blog.gopheracademy.com/birthday-bash-2014/kubernetes-go-crazy-delicious/ … (Also @thockin likes C/C++ and @brendandburns likes Java)

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    9. Tim Hockin‏ @thockin 1 Jun 2017
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      ISTR arguing for C++ for kube. I was wrong. #kubernetes would not be what it is.

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    10. Matt Klein‏ @mattklein123 1 Jun 2017
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      I agree c++ would have been wrong choice for k8s and have always been perplexed at use in mesos. Go great choice given variables.

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      Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 1 Jun 2017
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      Many communities adjacent to #Kubernetes were also using Go, and the abundance of libraries and lack of build balkanization worked out well

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        2. brendandburns‏ @brendandburns 1 Jun 2017
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          Also, though I coded k8s prototype in Java, Golang was the right choice for k8s. Also perfect 4 all CLIs, imho. Diff. tools for each job.

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        3. Joe Beda‏Verified account @jbeda 1 Jun 2017
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          To put a fine point on it: doing packet processing with a GC seems dicey. So it makes sense to use C++ for Envoy.

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