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Google Cloud. Kubernetes Steering Committee emeritus, K8s SIG Architecture co-Chair emeritus, CNCF TOC member emeritus

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    1. Joe Thompson‏ @caffeinepresent Jan 29
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      The story I heard (and this was back in 2016ish, secondhand and in passing, so take however many grains of salt), was:

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    2. Joe Thompson‏ @caffeinepresent Jan 29
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      When the community decided to rework replica management, DeploymentConfig managing ReplicationControllers was proposed by the folks from Red Hat, but the community eventually went with a different proposal of Deployment managing a new resource called a ReplicaSet.

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    3. Joe Thompson‏ @caffeinepresent Jan 29
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      The key issue seems to be kubernetes/kubernetes#1743, which almost five years later reads as @smarterclayton proposing the adoption of DeploymentConfig as a result of existing discussion and @bgrant0607 taking off from there, paring it down and bending it into a different shape.

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    4. Joe Thompson‏ @caffeinepresent Jan 29
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      The OpenShift doc text makes it sound like Kubernetes Deployment is a lineal descendant of OpenShift DeploymentConfig.

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    5. Alex B‏ @AlexB138 Jan 29
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      Fair enough! I'm too ignorant on the topic to know for certain either way.

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    6. Clayton Coleman‏ @smarterclayton Feb 1
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      Always a ton of nuance here - a lot of DC design was inspired by heroku deployments, but key difference early was deployment tries forever and a DC stops if they can’t rollout.

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    7. Clayton Coleman‏ @smarterclayton Feb 1
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      Over time they both evolved closer - today if you don’t want hooks or custom rollout logic deployments are better. We also haven’t evolved deployments much in the past few years - it’s possible it’s time for some new workload controller experiments in the wild

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    8. Joe Thompson‏ @caffeinepresent Feb 1
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      What kinds of things do you think Deployments should handle (or handle better) that they don’t right now? Anything come to mind specifically?

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    9. Clayton Coleman‏ @smarterclayton Feb 1
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      Condition summarization is huge - users should not have to look at a pod or RS to diagnose failure reason (stuck because PSP rejected, or quota, or because a secret doesn’t exist).

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    10. Clayton Coleman‏ @smarterclayton Feb 1
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      I do not like that deployments reconcile RS (so you can’t have an admission webhook that resolves a tag to a digest on an RS). DCs don’t do that which allows admission to mutate the body.

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      Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 Feb 3
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      I'd address that differently. (1) PodTemplate shouldn't set default values for any fields. (2) Deployment should use strategic merge. (3) We should add another field to PodSpec, as discussed in http://issues.k8s.io/1697 .

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