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Google Cloud. Kubernetes Steering Committee emeritus, K8s SIG Architecture co-Chair emeritus, CNCF TOC member emeritus

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    1. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      Kubernetes Borg/Omega history topic 10: In honor of #KubeConEU and the 5th anniversary of open-sourcing Kubernetes, I’ll add more perspective from the Borg and Omega teams to the origin story

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    2. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      Internally, Google puts a lot of emphasis on both resource efficiency and engineering efficiency. For both reasons, back in June 2013, a few months before GCE was ready to GA (https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2013/12/google-compute-engine-is-now-generally-available.html …), the Borg and GCE teams started to work more closely to improve both

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    3. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      The initial focus gravitated towards directly supporting features needed by Cloud in Borg so that Cloud wouldn't need to work around the the lack of those features (see my previous comment on 2-level scheduling: https://twitter.com/bgrant0607/status/1126153859041087488 …)

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      The Omega paper compared performance of 2-level scheduling with information hiding, but one issue it didn’t mention is that the lower-level scheduler needs to implement all of the same constraints as all the upper-level schedulers, or it may never satisfy their requirements
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    4. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      Google also spends a lot of energy constantly mitigating entropy in its internal software and infrastructure. The monorepo is one mechanism for this. It also launches many efforts to “unify” or “converge” multiple systems that co-evolve to do similar things.

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    5. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      In that context, 2 months later, the Unified Compute Working Group was formed by Google Cloud and Google's internal infrastructure group, "TI", which included Borg. The goal was to develop a proposal for a "compute platform" that could be used by both Cloud and internal customers

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    6. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      It was obvious that VMs would be too cumbersome and inefficient and PaaSes of the time weren't versatile enough to run a wide range of internal services, such as web search and Gmail. We needed a platform that was more like Borg, that was based on containers.

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    7. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      There were discussions regarding how compatible it should be with App Engine and with Borg. Docker, buildpacks, and Omlet (a new node agent under development to replace Borglet) were compared. Early discussions presumed a managed service, like GCE, App Engine, and Borg

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    8. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      In September 2013, viewpoints of 9+ WG participants were collected and composed into a "Unified Compute PRD", focused on serving workloads (e.g., rather than batch). That was the first time I was aware of the term "Container as a Service" being used

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    9. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      In October, subgroups of the WG were formed to focus on key problems, including a container management API subgroup. In November, we pulled in more people from Borg and from Cloud to hash out a number of API details. In December, an API proposal was presented to the full WG

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    10. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      At the same meeting, a proposal was made for what became the App Engine Flexible Environment (https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/flexible/ …), and a proposal to build an open-source container platform, so that we wouldn't be "Hadooped" by other OSS projects

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      Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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      That OSS container platform was Project 7. After, there were several proposals from both the Borg side and Cloud side to build products with compatible APIs. Collaboration with the Borg team deepened. Borglet team members started to work on libcontainer for Docker in April 2014

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        2. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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          It soon became clear that other Borg team members (me @thockin @erictune4 Dawn Chen @originalavalamp @davidopp @vishnukanan) should work on the open-source project to design and develop the Borg-like functionality. We deeply believed in the potential value to external users

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        3. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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          So Google Cloud created Kubernetes in part because Google needed it, and we believed others needed it also. Looking at the other solutions available at the time (e.g., https://github.com/tsuru/docker-cluster …, https://github.com/signalfx/maestro-ng …) and since, we made the right call

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        4. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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          Ah, I found that @jbeda covered some of this background from the Cloud side in his podcast: https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/012-kubernetes-origins/ …

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        5. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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          Dawn spoke about her involvement in her podcast: https://kubernetespodcast.com/episode/022-sig-node/index.html …

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        6. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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          And other previous origin stories and retrospectives: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/07/from-Google-to-the-world-the-Kubernetes-origin-story.html … https://kubernetes.io/blog/2016/07/happy-k8sbday-1/ … https://kubernetes.io/blog/2016/07/the-bet-on-kubernetes/ … https://kubernetes.io/blog/2016/07/oh-the-places-you-will-go/ …https://kubernetes.io/blog/2018/06/06/4-years-of-k8s/ …

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        7. Brian Grant‏ @bgrant0607 22 May 2019
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          There were some posted after the OSCON Most impact award also: https://kubernetes.io/blog/2018/07/19/kubernetes-wins-2018-oscon-most-impact-award/ … https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2018/07/kubernetes-wins-oscon-most-impact-award.html …https://kubernetes.io/blog/2018/07/20/the-history-of-kubernetes-the-community-behind-it/ …

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