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Science has advanced so far. Would be great if scientists used similar modes of observation, methods, and consistency for introspection to observe their own minds Where are the modern day Schrondingers, Teslas?
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Thought experiment: There is a theoretical universe, with no awareness of it at any point. It has its own fundamental properties and mathematical laws which are unknown and never observed What can be said of this universe? This a dilemma ...
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Thought experiment: 1. U are born, raised, live 30 years. U have a identity: name, language, faith, beliefs, nation, concepts, morals, personality etc 2. Using a time machine all this is reversed to ur birth. This time there is different identity: name, language, faith etc
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What does quantum information theory and decoherence say? What is the state of a collection of particles with coherence and no measurement / information obtained? Can any scientist even confirm of deny existence of the object without any information, or discuss it's properties?
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Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of an object which has never been observed, directly or indirectly, by anyone anytime? Does a planet that has never been observed directly or indirectly, by anyone at anytime exist?
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The "I" (identity) is transient - a baby is born given a name, a faith, nationality, language, set of beliefs, ideas, morals etc (identity) - these all can change over time. The identity itself can change over time But something remains constant throughout life
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Brain - physical device Mind - functions n process in the brain: memory, concepts, thoughts, feelings I - The primary thought "i" which mind comprehends as self
#consciousness - the silence, nothingness, ever present, in which all above occurs. Same for all (true self)Prikaži ovu nitHvala. Twitter će to iskoristiti za poboljšanje vaše vremenske crte. PoništiPoništi -
2. Whoever from 7.5 billion human performs this
#consciousness test, will reach the same result - nothingness 3. If someone 1000 years ago, or 1000 years later performs the test, will reach same result How can my nothingness be different to yours? It is exactly the samePrikaži ovu nitHvala. Twitter će to iskoristiti za poboljšanje vaše vremenske crte. PoništiPoništi -
Key points from this simple thought experiment about blank
#consciousness (nothingness): 1. wherever, whenever the test is performed the result = nothingness. It is independent of location, space, timePrikaži ovu nitHvala. Twitter će to iskoristiti za poboljšanje vaše vremenske crte. PoništiPoništi -
Thought experiment. Close eyes 1. Turn off all senses one by one (external world) 2. Turn off all thoughts, feelings, internal sensations (internal) What is left = blank
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Close eyes, eat a peanut, pretend its sweet There is no "sweetness" in a peanut, it isnt in past experience or internal association, but still quale of sweetness can be overlayed with a peanut Quale is just special brain activity that creates internal sensations
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Simple test: close eyes, imagine eating a chocolate. There is no chocolate but u can still experience sweetness. Through past experience the brain has associated internal sensations (qualia) of "sweeteness" with chocolate.
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This shows Qualia exists within awareness (consciousness) Qualia is a strong mental association with the processing of information. But is still exists within consciousness and can even be turned off.
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3. Now try to turn off this blank awareness (consciousness). You won't be able to. Any attempt to think, conceptualise, will return you back to step 1 or 2. This blank awareness is the fundamental basis of all perception (our reality). It cant be reduced, removed, switched off
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2. Turn off all thoughts, feelings, internal sensations. This includes the thought "I" of personal identification. Now the internal aspects are not perceived and switched off. What is left? Void, stillness, silence, nothingness, no self... just blank awareness (consciousness)
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Logical thought experiment: sit down comfortably 1. Turn off senses one by one. You cannot see, hear, feel (skin), smell, taste etc. Now the external world is not perceived and is switched off. But you still have internal thoughts, internal feelings, body feelings etc
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Consciousness Logic Thought Experiments : anyone can try them
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This is a very interesting point. From my own observation it seems time only exists as a single point labelled as NOW for awareness I repeated this test many times , and received the same consistent result. So calling it a "stream of consciousness" is wrong.
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Awareness only ever exists in the present moment , I.e. single point in time labelled as "now". Past is awareness of prior memories in the NOW Future is awareness of mind thoughts , projections in the NOW
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It is not learned. We learn to focus our awareness / attention to things, we learn to better memorize things, we learn to control feelings etc But no one teaches us how to become aware. I assume it is just there from before even birth: like the sesnses
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