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    1. Markus Vervier‏ @marver Mar 14

      So is Chrome too secure for #Pwn2Own or are the prizes too low?

      2 replies 4 retweets 13 likes
    2. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi Mar 14
      Replying to @marver

      Obviously it’s because Chinese.:-)

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. mj0011‏ @mj0011sec Mar 15
      Replying to @HaifeiLi @marver

      Definitely.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. James Forshaw‏ @tiraniddo Mar 15
      Replying to @mj0011sec @HaifeiLi @marver

      I think the useful metric would be whether the edge and ff exploits just used win32k. If so that imo would be part of answer. But no star Chinese teams also help Chrome 😞

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. mj0011‏ @mj0011sec Mar 15
      Replying to @tiraniddo @HaifeiLi @marver

      Rce and eop are both much harder on Chrome.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. James Forshaw‏ @tiraniddo Mar 15
      Replying to @mj0011sec @HaifeiLi @marver

      I’d assume eop but I’d expect rce to be easier than at least edge. Certainly if you believe @dwizzzleMSFT. Based on discussions with others it sounds like rce is just as easy to find and easier to exploit, but that’s chrome’s trade off, we rely on the sandbox more.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever Mar 15
      Replying to @tiraniddo @mj0011sec and

      In my experience it used to be much easier to find vulns in Edge. Both were relatively easy to exploit for RCE. Mitigations and constant code improvements seem to have made finding vulns in Edge much harder now. The mitigations make exploiting them for RCE also harder.

      1 reply 5 retweets 10 likes
      𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever Mar 15
      Replying to @berendjanwever @tiraniddo and

      If you have a vuln now, exploiting for RCE in Chrome is relatively easy compared to Edge IMHO. I've not looked at sandbox escapes myself, so I can't comment on how easy it is to turn RCE into complete compromise.

      12:53 AM - 15 Mar 2018
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        2. Yunhai Zhang‏ @_f0rgetting_ Mar 15
          Replying to @berendjanwever @tiraniddo and

          IMHO, exploiting for RCE in Edge is also easy enough even when RFG/CET is employed in the future, so compare which one is more easy is meaningless.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever Mar 15
          Replying to @_f0rgetting_ @tiraniddo and

          I'm not saying it can't be done by the best exploit writers, but would you agree that the average exploit writer is going to have a harder time on Edge compared to Chrome?

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Yunhai Zhang‏ @_f0rgetting_ Mar 15
          Replying to @berendjanwever @tiraniddo and

          No offence, but there are so many known issues, maybe not only the best writers know them, but also the average writers know some of them too?

          3 replies 4 retweets 4 likes
        5. James Forshaw‏ @tiraniddo Mar 15
          Replying to @_f0rgetting_ @berendjanwever and

          It's certainly worth noting the list of "out-of-scope" issues for the Mitigation Bypass bounty :-Dpic.twitter.com/1Aqq0ag6Xs

          2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
        6. Dave dwizzzle Weston‏ @dwizzzleMSFT Mar 15
          Replying to @tiraniddo @_f0rgetting_ and

          does chrome even pay for bypasses in your llvm CPI stuff?

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        7. James Forshaw‏ @tiraniddo Mar 15
          Replying to @dwizzzleMSFT @_f0rgetting_ and

          Do you pay for anything in CFG based on that list? :-)

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        8. Dave dwizzzle Weston‏ @dwizzzleMSFT Mar 15
          Replying to @tiraniddo @_f0rgetting_ and

          Yeah that’s what I thought

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. James Forshaw‏ @tiraniddo Mar 15
          Replying to @dwizzzleMSFT @_f0rgetting_ and

          Why deploy a technology which you've clearly stated is broken, might as well spend more of your time on other stuff which matter.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
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