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    1. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @berendjanwever

      Thank you the replies, but I still see no explanation *how* this info about its inside can go outside without going FTL.

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    2. Tamir Bahar‏ @tmr232 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @berendjanwever

      gravity is the cause for "no escape". It distorts space-time. It does not need to escape. The effects of it are measurable

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    3. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @tmr232

      But as soon as you add mass to the hole, space-time must adjust. So how does space-time know it must? This info must travel; how?

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    4. Tamir Bahar‏ @tmr232 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @berendjanwever

      from a perspective outside the black hole nothing ever enters it. So you don't have that issue. It all stays on the outside

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    5. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @tmr232

      Not true: LIGO detected merging black holes; these "entered" each other, space-time adjusted to the new mass distribution; how?

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    6. Tamir Bahar‏ @tmr232 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @berendjanwever

      My bad. But you can see the mass going in, and adjust. Later nothing comes out, so you don't update.

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      𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 24 Nov 2016
      Replying to @tmr232

      I'm pretty sure space-time does not speculate about what is going to happen, but sticks to the information it has available.

      3:03 PM - 24 Nov 2016
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        2. Tamir Bahar‏ @tmr232 24 Nov 2016
          Replying to @berendjanwever

          https://n.ethz.ch/~usoler/download/GR/Spacetime%20and%20Geometry.pdf … p. 208: "Thus a light ray that approaches r=2GM never seems to get there ..." (time dilation)

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        3. Tamir Bahar‏ @tmr232 24 Nov 2016
          Replying to @tmr232 @berendjanwever

          Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_horizon#Interacting_with_an_event_horizon …

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