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    1. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @Jindroush

      Yep, by the definition that your industry likes to be measured by, your industry is absolutely awesome.

      2 replies 2 retweets 15 likes
    2. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @taviso @Jindroush

      The purpose of our products is to fight malware. Their ability to fight malware is a pretty reasonable measure 4 quality.

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Tavis Ormandy‏Verified account @taviso 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @Jindroush

      Kinda like how a lightbulb that sets things on fire is still high quality, so long as you only measure lumens?

      3 replies 21 retweets 103 likes
    4. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @taviso @Jindroush

      It's certainly of better quality than a lightbulb that doesn't light the room at all.

      5 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    5. Scott Schlesier‏ @sschlesier 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @taviso @Jindroush

      I'm doubtful of the utility of a well lit pile of ashes

      1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
    6. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @sschlesier @taviso @Jindroush

      And I am doubtful of the utility of a box of matches that can't light a fire.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @sschlesier and

      "AV is like a box of matches: it can set stuff on fire"

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    8. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @berendjanwever @sschlesier and

      Except Microsoft's AV. It's a box of matches that can't set stuff on fire.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @sschlesier and

      o_O wait.... uhm... what!? Did you just do a180°or just don't understand the analogy?

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 19 Nov 2016
      Replying to @berendjanwever @sschlesier and

      Uhm, I just continued Tavis' reasoning. AV is insecure (but detects well) except MS AV.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 20 Nov 2016
      Replying to @VessOnSecurity @sschlesier and

      I read this: Tavis: "pro: light, con: fire". Vess: "MS causes no fire". Seems like 180° to me

      12:18 AM - 20 Nov 2016
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @berendjanwever @sschlesier and

          Tavis: with these matches you can light a candle but also set your house on fire.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @VessOnSecurity @berendjanwever and

          Me: with Microsoft's matches you can't even light a candle, let alone set your house on fire.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @VessOnSecurity @sschlesier and

          ...except Tavis was talking about a light bulb, not matches. Goal is illumination, not ashes.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @berendjanwever @sschlesier and

          Candles illuminate, too. You want a lightbulb analogy? OK, here it goes.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @VessOnSecurity @berendjanwever and

          Tavis: this WiFi-enabled lightbulb has a security hole.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @VessOnSecurity @berendjanwever and

          Me: Microsoft lightbulbs don't light the room well.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. 𝓢𝓀𝓎𝓛𝒾𝓃𝑒𝒹‏ @berendjanwever 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @VessOnSecurity @sschlesier and

          I'm pretty sure Tavis was saying he'd rather be in a dimly lid room than in a house on fire.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. Vess‏ @VessOnSecurity 20 Nov 2016
          Replying to @berendjanwever @sschlesier and

          He's finding security holes, not hardware failures, so it's not the same.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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