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    Ben Wizner‏Verified account @benwizner Jun 8

    Time for a twitter holiday, I guess.pic.twitter.com/rNBWdSVk9Y

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      1. Betty Vega‏ @aaaaa36786998 Nov 17
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        from HER, she would

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      1. Raelyn Matthews‏ @rusich86 Nov 12
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        as fast, and admire

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      1. Ben Adair‏Verified account @benadair Aug 24
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        Miss you bro

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        Also, don't take a holiday after "taking a stand" for Alex Jones. At least have the courage of your convictions and use social media as the tool for communication that it is meant to be. Engage. Debate. Even, maybe, learn and grow. Dismiss haters, but embrace the work of society.

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        But we don't have to defend child pornographers and we don't have to defend incitement to violence and we don't have to defend, for example, Monsanto's "freedom of speech" to market Round-Up as a cure for cancer. Because to do so would be to side with injustice over justice.

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        Last thing, I promise. WHEN someone's actual freedom of speech is threatened or violated, that's when people like you and I work for justice. Like the NFL players' speech, for example. We must even defend speech we "don't agree with" and "don't like" and "find offensive"...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        I think you're on the wrong side of this one. "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." That's ALL that happened here. A manager said to the owner, "This person is going to get someone killed" and a decision was made, "Not in my joint, he's not - throw him out." Fin.

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        I'm sure you've done a lot of good work for a lot of good causes. Freedom of speech is one of our most sacred rights, but you well know that it is not limitless. B/c you know that, you know human beings, imperfect as we are, must be the ones to negotiate those limits...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        Yes, sir, we're well aware of HOW the laws of the US are used against progressives and people of color and all manner of marginalized people. Not THAT it CAN be done - but that it IS done every day. And it's done by people who LISTEN to Alex Jones and believe his worldview...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        You *warn* that the Attorney General of the US MIGHT be sympathetic to the KKK and consider BLM a 'hate group'?! Do you REALLY think there's a chance that such an abomination could occur in America? Do you take your audience for fools, unaware of history, unaware of reality? ...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        And you warn progressives that the laws of the US can be turned on them/used against them? REALLY? Do you think there's a chance that officers of the state will start murdering unarmed, innocent citizens on the street and, even though caught on video, they'll face no charges?...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        So, a business owner made a decision that he didn't want one of his customers, Jones, to get anyone killed due to the things Jones' was saying. (Do you know about the credible death-threats fans of his have made? About the Comet Ping Pong shooting? People are in REAL danger)...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        Because that's what happened here. Jones was given wide berth these many years, AS he routinely broke terms of service that he not only agreed to, but which he himself has on his own InfoWars' website. InfoWars: "This is NOT censorship. Every civilization in history has rules"...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        Now, if I came into a restaurant you were eating at, drunk, naked, making threats and, let's say, specifically shouting falsehoods about you as I sat down at your table, screaming that you were, I don't know, a pedophile, let's say - you wouldn't ask to have me removed? ...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        These court decisions ARE still subjective, but they also have (long) histories and every individual case has its contexts. All of this HELPS us to do the very hard business of 'drawing lines', which remains ever necessary, as you've already agreed (in the case of child porn)...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        You must further know that some speech has been found to be 'unprotected' in courts of law, which comprise the third branch of our system of gov't. So, things like 'defamation' and 'incitement to violence' actually have LEGAL definitions that have been adjudicated in courts...

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      1. Moz Art‏ @Moz_Art2 Aug 21
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        I guess. Ben, surely you don't think child porn belongs on Facebook, Youtube or anywhere, right? So, then you AGREE that in societies, where things ARE subjective (cheers), we nevertheless MUST draw lines, right? And that IS difficult (can be - easy w/ things like child porn)...

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      1. Cat April Watters‏ @CatW44 Aug 2
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        Many people find the Truth "Negative". If there wasn't any "negative" feedback, how would your body let you know it's hungry?

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      1. bmaz‏ @bmaz Jun 8
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        Oh come on. Keep the #FyreFestival of twitter alive you malcontent. You are a good person, and dammit, you are good enough and people love you!

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