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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

Taipei, Taiwan
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    Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 19 Feb 2014

    I’m pretty sure the end result of the Mavericks Mail/Google Apps shitshow is that I stop using *both*.

    12:51 AM - 19 Feb 2014
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      2. Saravanan Sivaraman‏ @simplysaru 20 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent what have u switched to?

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 20 Feb 2014
        Replying to @simplysaru

        @simplysaru @mailmateapp for client, still evaluating hosts. Want to get away from Gmail's nonstandard IMAP

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      4. Saravanan Sivaraman‏ @simplysaru 20 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I am on @FastMailFM and it’s totally worth it, didn’t see any issues with mail, will check out @mailmateapp

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 20 Feb 2014
        Replying to @simplysaru

        @simplysaru @FastMailFM @mailmateapp I really want integrated calendar/address book, and it looks like they're about to do just that :)

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      2. David Brakoniecki‏ @dajb2 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Surprised that you use Mac Mail or Calendar apps at all. I love my mac but those apps needed to go ...

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @dajb2

        @dajb2 oh man, Calendar is such a disaster.

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      4. David Brakoniecki‏ @dajb2 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I like postbox for Mail and Fantiscal for calendar - if that helps you any.

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      1. John Bergmayer‏Verified account @bergmayer 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Airmail is pretty good for "send and archive" and ability to default to plain text composition & replies.

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      1. Gio‏ @G_Masta 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I use @airmailer for that exact reason

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      2. Matthew Guay‏ @maguay 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Have you tried MailPilot? Because you should.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @maguay

        @maguay information density looks way too low…pretty happy with @mailmateapp

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      4. Matthew Guay‏ @maguay 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I’m sorry — @mailmateapp is what I meant. I write about way too many apps. MailMate, it is. That app is awesome.

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      2. Rohit Mishra‏ @amishrarohit 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Haven't used Mail but wonder what it offers that you don't get from Gmail offline?

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @amishrarohit

        @movingahead it’s not a web app… I prefer to not move my hands from the keyboard when going through Mail. Even w) shortcuts Gmail slower

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Rohit Mishra‏ @amishrarohit 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Can't argue against that. Gmail web app is no longer the performance beast it used to be.

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      2. Steven Op de beeck‏ @steven_odb 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Mail.app works well with any service that doesn’t distort IMAP.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @steven_odb

        @steven_odb yeah, but in the attempt to fix the problem, I tried @mailmateapp and like it so much better :)

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      4. Steven Op de beeck‏ @steven_odb 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Fair enough. I’ve tried @MailPilotApp but it’s still to early/buggy.

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      2. Richard Lee‏ @dlackty 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I already gave up and switched to Mailplane / Chrome app or other browser-based solutions.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @dlackty

        @dlackty ugh. Also, the root cause is Gmail’s non-standard IMAP support. Makes me nervous.

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      4. Richard Lee‏ @dlackty 19 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Guess they will remove IMAP support eventually (probably in near future). New apps like Mailbox use Gmail’s APIs instead.

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