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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

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    Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014

    If you don’t understand why I say Windows Phone is dead, then this piece by @tomiahonen is worth reading (seriously!) http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/02/paging-mythbusters-again-did-microsofts-windows-phone-really-grow-more-in-2012-than-android-or-ios-h.html …

    4:39 AM - 6 Feb 2014
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      2. Romit Mehta‏ @TheRomit 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @tomiahonen ::yawn::

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @TheRomit

        @TheRomit ☕️

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      4. Romit Mehta‏ @TheRomit 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent As usual, he is rambling. Completely incoherent (and so wrong too). Surprising you linked to him.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @TheRomit

        @TheRomit usually I agree, but he’s right here. What is wrong with this article (not in general)

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      6. Romit Mehta‏ @TheRomit 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent He says if a co grows 100% and another grows 10%, which grew more? “It depends”. No, it doesn’t.

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      7. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @TheRomit

        @TheRomit of course it does. It depends on what you’re measuring. Broadly, comparing growth rates to an install base 10x size nonsensical

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      8. Romit Mehta‏ @TheRomit 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent No, from a pure stats perspective it doesn’t. 100% growth > 10% growth. That is to his point. Now, to add color, yes it depends.

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      2. Desi in the Valley‏ @TechBhurji 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @tomiahonen maybe. But 150 million out of 5 billion smart phones is a niche player. Also ran. Not where innovation happens.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @TechBhurji

        @TechBhurji that’s what I said...

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      4. Desi in the Valley‏ @TechBhurji 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent yes. Do u think at some point developers will go android 1st? When android hits >2 billion users?

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      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @TechBhurji

        @TechBhurji will depend on the the market/region

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      2. Mark Wilcox‏ @__MarkW__ 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Worth reading if you don't already understand % growth vs absolute growth - you made me break my no Tomi he's lost the plot rule.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @__MarkW__

        @__MarkW__ haha - yes, same here

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      2. Ludger A. Rinsche‏ @HelloLudger 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent hmm. @tomiahonen needs. 5000 words to say "don't confuse relative and absolute numbers". Not really worth reading.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @HelloLudger

        @HelloLudger that’s the Toni experience :) I warned you...

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      4. Ludger A. Rinsche‏ @HelloLudger 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I know... That's why I unfollowed him a while ago. I thought, maybe he learned how to make a point. He didn't.

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      2. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @tomiahonen I like this, but a few of the 'good' graphs are also deceptive - "Nokia Sacrifice" one should be units, not share.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @elkmovie

        @elkmovie that’s part of the Tomi experience ;)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ben Bajarin‏Verified account @BenBajarin 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @elkmovie he is, without doubt, an experience. Especially if you follow him on Twitter.

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      2. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent that is hilarious. I worried for a moment that Tomi wasn't going to mention Nokia, but it worked out ok.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @charlesarthur

        @charlesarthur hahah - I had the same reaction. The Tomi we know and love showed up eventually

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      4. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent though thinking about it, there's a very strong argument that WinPhone is stillborn. It won't ever achieve scale.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @charlesarthur

        @charlesarthur that's exactly what it is

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      6. Alex Taylor‏ @adntaylor 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @charlesarthur If it is, Microsoft is dead... I don't think you can write it off just yet. They can't afford to lose this one!

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Walt  🚴🏼‍♂️ 🗽‏ @WaltFrench 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @adntaylor

        @adntaylor @monkbent @charlesarthur like your newborn in ICU @ $100K/day, draining your wealth; maybe pass on your genes. Except it's a box.

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      8. Charles Arthur‏Verified account @charlesarthur 6 Feb 2014
        Replying to @WaltFrench

        @WaltFrench @adntaylor @monkbent that may be how they're thinking of it, which would be a category mistake.

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