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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

Taipei, Taiwan
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    Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 29 Jan 2014

    People, please, even if Google *made* money on Motorola it was still a mistake.

    11:39 PM - 29 Jan 2014
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      2. obi.‏ @on_wu 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Motorola was threatening to sue the other Android OEMs. Had them over a barrel at the time.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @on_wu

        @on_wu with patents that were toothless because if FRAND. Many of us said so at time.

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      4. obi.‏ @on_wu 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent you don't think they bought them for patents (which they retained)? If that was the case I'd 100% agree with you re the mistake

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      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @on_wu

        @on_wu stand by explanation here:http://stratechery.com/2014/googles-tasty-lemonade/ …

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      2. Yen Lai‏ @yenlai 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Wall Street drops AAPL 10% on record revenues! completely ignores GOOG losing $9+ billion

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @yenlai

        @yenlai Wall St. Isn't an awards show

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      2. Shameer Mulji‏ @shameermulji 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent If Google buying Moto was a mistake, then possibly same could be said for MS buying Nokia & making the Surface.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @shameermulji

        @shameermulji which I've said is indeed the case

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      2. Paolo Gorgo'‏ @paologorgo 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Google "saved" money by returning to a sound strategy. Your turn, Microsoft... ;-)

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @paologorgo

        @paologorgo one of those situations where it's nice to have a founder as CEO. Political capital to ignore sunk costs.

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      2. Navendu Chandra‏ @navendu_c 29 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @BenedictEvans what if it was just head fake for Microsoft to follow suit and acquire Nokia? Android wanted its Bing!

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @navendu_c

        @navenduchandra @BenedictEvans too cute by half

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      4. Navendu Chandra‏ @navendu_c 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent touché

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      2. John Piscitello‏ @jpiscitello 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent So if Google buying Motorola was a lemonade-level mistake, what does that make Microsoft buying Nokia?

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      3. John Piscitello‏ @jpiscitello 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @jpiscitello

        @monkbent You've said Google is a 100% vertical player in the past, yes? I don't think that's quite true, because of Google Accounts.

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      4. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @jpiscitello

        @jpiscitello I’ve said the exact opposite

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      5. John Piscitello‏ @jpiscitello 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent My bad - I wrote "vertical" when I meant "horizontal".

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      1. Kontra‏ @counternotions 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @BenedictEvans If you must really hear this: Any sufficiently large multi-billion dollar mistake is indistinguishable from success

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      1. 鷹Robert Linek‏ @hisurfer 30 Jan 2014
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        @monkbent about all you can say is that $GOOG did a decent job of extricating themselves from a mistake

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      1. The LeeBase‏ @TheLeeBase 30 Jan 2014
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent and there is no way the made money. They did, however, make the best recovery in using the sale to get concessions from Sammy

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