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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

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    1. Stratechery‏ @stratechery 29 Sep 2013

      Obsoletive http://stratechery.com/?p=545  The most revolutionary products - like the iPhone - are not disruptive. They are obsoletive.

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    2. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 1 Oct 2013
      Replying to @disc1979

      @disc1979 yes, but they were more capable and more expensive than the incumbents...

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      Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 1 Oct 2013
      Replying to @disc1979

      @disc1979 sure. We're clearly all saying the same thing. Are there other examples in "disruption canon" that are high end though?

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        2. DisruptiveInnovation‏ @thinkdisruptive 2 Oct 2013
          Replying to @benthompson

          @monkbent @disc1979 iPhone was not high end if u compare to right thing (PCs). As mobile computing device, it was low-end disruption.

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        3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 2 Oct 2013
          Replying to @thinkdisruptive

          @thinkdisruptive @disc1979 as acknowledged in the article. I spent three paragraphs clarifying I was talking about what happened to phones

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        4. DisruptiveInnovation‏ @thinkdisruptive 2 Oct 2013
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          @monkbent @disc1979 Fair enough, but if target was phones, would have been sustaining innovation, not disruptive + not as successful

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        5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 2 Oct 2013
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          @thinkdisruptive @disc1979 did the PC sustain typewriters? My point was that what happened didn't fit in the current framework

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        6. DisruptiveInnovation‏ @thinkdisruptive 3 Oct 2013
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          @monkbent @disc1979 iPhone not in phone market. Disruption is relative. Must compare 2 right thing, or none of analysis makes sense.

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        1. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 1 Oct 2013
          Replying to @disc1979

          @disc1979 me neither. Disruption so elegantly explains the low-end. I'd rather a new word for what happened with the iPhone.

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        1. DisruptiveInnovation‏ @thinkdisruptive 3 Oct 2013
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          @monkbent @disc1979 You aren't using "high-end" as theory does, but colloquially. Therefore, asking wrong question.

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        2. Walt  🚴🏼‍♂️ 🗽‏ @WaltFrench 1 Oct 2013
          Replying to @benthompson

          @monkbent @disc1979 “Cars,” “telephone” not disruptive but low-qual transformations w costs of network buildout, etc. What name for them?

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        3. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 1 Oct 2013
          Replying to @WaltFrench

          @WaltFrench @monkbent @disc1979 You could argue for a slightly slower version with game consoles - launch price doubled in 2 generations.

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        4. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 1 Oct 2013
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          @WaltFrench @monkbent @disc1979 Heck, quadrupled in 3 - basic NES went for $100, SNES went for $200, Playstation was $300 and PS2 was $400.

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        5. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 1 Oct 2013
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          @WaltFrench @monkbent @disc1979 And $500 for PS3, and this absolutely hammered Nintendo / Sega (though the former delayed it with the Wii).

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        7. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 1 Oct 2013
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          @disc1979 @WaltFrench @monkbent Even after inflation that's more than a 2x increase in 2 decades - how is that not a move to the high end?

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