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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

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    1. Ben Bajarin‏Verified account @BenBajarin 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @sameer_singh17

      @sameer_singh17 @monkbent all too new Sameer. Just not enough history. That’s why I look outside of tech at pure consumer markets.

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    2. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @BenBajarin

      @BenBajarin @monkbent That's the part I have trouble with. Outside of tech, it's hard to find premium brands that are also mass market.

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    3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @sameer_singh17

      @sameer_singh17 @BenBajarin because the price delta is so great. The iPhone is *only* a few hundred more

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    4. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @benthompson

      @monkbent @BenBajarin Which essentially makes the iPhone a mass market product. The luxury brand argument certainly works in Asia though.

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    5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @sameer_singh17

      @sameer_singh17 @BenBajarin Sameer, you're arguing yourself in circles. You have to let go of some preconceptions, if only for a few moments

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    6. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @benthompson

      @monkbent @BenBajarin Not sure if I'm making myself clear.

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    7. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
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      @monkbent @BenBajarin My argument is that a luxury brands and mass market brands have different types of consumers.

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    8. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 23 Sep 2013
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      @sameer_singh17 @BenBajarin I understand your argument, and disagree. Do you understand mine? Rather certain the answer is no.

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    9. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @benthompson

      @monkbent @BenBajarin I do. Your point is that the lower incremental cost of acquiring a luxury brand makes iPhone appealing.

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    10. Ben Bajarin‏Verified account @BenBajarin 23 Sep 2013
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      @sameer_singh17 @monkbent Sameer, the fallacy you make is believing Apple is a luxury brand. They are a mass market brand.

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      Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 23 Sep 2013
      Replying to @BenBajarin

      @BenBajarin @sameer_singh17 you (and Christensen) don't value the experience of a product. But consumers do.

      7:10 AM - 23 Sep 2013
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        2. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
          Replying to @benthompson

          @monkbent @BenBajarin I think this discussion is just going around in circles. The parallel one seems to be making more sense.

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        3. Ben Bajarin‏Verified account @BenBajarin 23 Sep 2013
          Replying to @sameer_singh17

          @sameer_singh17 @monkbent If you haven’t read Jobs bio you should. He made it clear they won’t lose the price battle again.

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        4. Sameer Singh‏ @sameer_singh17 23 Sep 2013
          Replying to @BenBajarin

          @BenBajarin @monkbent This is the part I have trouble with. TC was fairly clear about it. Remains to be seen.

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        5. Ben Bajarin‏Verified account @BenBajarin 23 Sep 2013
          Replying to @sameer_singh17

          @sameer_singh17 remains to be seen short term. Don't miss the big picture long term.

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