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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

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    Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 10 Sep 2013

    Worth pointing out that it's not just Android that has made the OS layer non-monetizable.pic.twitter.com/45VZrHDu86

    8:46 PM - 10 Sep 2013
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      2. Richard Gaywood‏ @PenLlawen 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @reneritchie Apple cares about having lots of apps, I’m pretty sure it cares not one whit that those apps make money.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @PenLlawen

        @PenLlawen @reneritchie http://stratechery.com/2013/why-doesnt-apple-enable-sustainable-businesses-on-the-app-store/ …

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      4. Richard Gaywood‏ @PenLlawen 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @reneritchie Indeed, I’ve made similar arguments at @tuaw a few times over the years.

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      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @PenLlawen

        @PenLlawen @reneritchie yep. Totally logical behavior, even if devs don't want to admit it :)

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      6. Ravi Nanavati‏ @fpgeek 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @PenLlawen @reneritchie Corollary: If you are a developer and want a sustainable business, multi-platform is table stakes.

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      2. Andreas Constantinou‏ @andreascon 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent iOS vs Android are two different industry structures. iOS is free for consumers, Android also free for OEMs.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @andreascon

        @andreascon of course. I've been very consistent and saying they're totally different. They are both, however, free :)

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      1. Stephen‏ @stephenballot 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent well done on your product differentiation post pre event. Fucking nailed it.

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      2. Walt  🚴🏼‍♂️ 🗽‏ @WaltFrench 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Interesting, but go a step further: if OEMs really saw oppty to sell WinPhoneOS (or Tizen?), how much would they happily pay?

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      3. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @WaltFrench

        @WaltFrench @monkbent I think most OEMs feel (perhaps naively) that they can add equal or greater value via customized Android for less $.

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      4. Walt  🚴🏼‍♂️ 🗽‏ @WaltFrench 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @elkmovie

        @elkmovie @monkbent IOW (I think?) “smartphone OS is Dead.” But by going 64-bit, Apple is trying to attach value beyond its h/w & ecosystem.

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      5. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @WaltFrench

        @WaltFrench @monkbent They're trying to ensure that their ecosystem remains the one that facilitates the most cutting-edge apps.

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      6. Walt  🚴🏼‍♂️ 🗽‏ @WaltFrench 11 Sep 2013
        Replying to @elkmovie

        @elkmovie Hoping for a Pleco* blog “Acing the iOS7 Transition.” What's now easy/compatible? One App, 3 diff UXs. etc. * or link to other's

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      7. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 11 Sep 2013
        Replying to @WaltFrench

        @WaltFrench Probably should wait for some reassurance that we actually did ace it before we start bragging about how.

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      8. Michael Love‏ @elkmovie 11 Sep 2013
        Replying to @elkmovie

        @WaltFrench But in general I'd say every new iteration of iOS brings more incentive to consider a permanently split code base.

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      1. Gordan Knott‏ @GordanKnott 14 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @reneritchie you're half right. Android made OSes very difficult to monetise - forcing Apple to ship a plastic phone with"free" os

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      1. Basexperience™.  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿‏ @basexperience 11 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I think iOS can't be compared as Apple have never sold an OS. Interesting contrast with PC domain though, MICROSOFT'S doom?

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      1. J Christopher Doss‏ @jcjdoss 11 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I think Apple was the one who originally made the OS layer non-monetizable...now that I think about it, maybe even Windows Mobile

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      1. Ahmad Zidni Mat‏ @zzeed 11 Sep 2013
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        @monkbent @_imdcrazyone monetize throuh app sales but not the OS itself

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      2. Bennett Griffin‏ @bgrffn 10 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent And with today's announcements Apple is bringing that non-monetizable strategy to productivity & media editing apps, too. :/

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      3. Olabode Olaoke‏ @budzeg 11 Sep 2013
        Replying to @bgrffn

        @BennettGriffin_ @monkbent that, in my view, is going to change alot in "App-Dom" going forward. It's also going to popularize iWorks & co

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