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Author/Founder of @stratechery. Host of @exponentfm. @notechben for sports. @monkbent on other networks. Home on the Internet.

Taipei, Taiwan
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    Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013

    The continued insistence in some quarters that Nokia was right to not go with Android is baffling. You think this today is a good thing?

    7:19 AM - 3 Sep 2013
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      2. Blake Hill‏ @blakehill 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Wonder how Amazon feels about choosing Android for the Kindle Fire though. That part of Amazon’s business is the inverse of Nokia.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @blakehill

        @blakehill I'm sure they feel great. Why wouldn't they?

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      4. Blake Hill‏ @blakehill 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent It’s at Google’s mercy now. Google gradually starts closing down parts of the OS, tries to own the full experience with Motorola…

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @blakehill

        @blakehill then they stick with their fork. Still better than starting from scratch.

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      6. Blake Hill‏ @blakehill 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the Kindle Fire business. Seems like it could be something, but won’t be.

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      7. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @blakehill

        @blakehill yep. No one really knows

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      2. Srijit‏ @srijit_s 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent If Nokia wanted to go Android, they should have done in 2008. Irrelevant after that.

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @srijit_s

        @srijit_s agree they should have 2008 (although 2009 more realistic), but even in 2011 it's now clear WP was not the right choice

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      4. Shameer Mulji‏ @shameermulji 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @srijit_s How is WP not a good choice? Market share has been growing very steady;http://winsupersite.com/windows-phone/report-windows-phone-usage-surges-europe-mexico …

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      5. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @shameermulji

        @shameermulji @srijit_s because they no longer exist as an independent entity?

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      2. Roger Shepherd #FBPE‏ @RogerShepherd 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent was Nokia in a fit financial state to forego MIcrosoft's money?

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @RogerShepherd

        @RogerShepherd In 2009, when it was clear what to do, absolutely. In 2011 they should have sold something to make it happen

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      2. Jack Ng‏ @SuperJack 4 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent If Nokia went with Android, it'd have joined the HTC, Sony, LG etc crowd, and would it have made the £7billion cash today?

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      3. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 4 Sep 2013
        Replying to @SuperJack

        @SuperJack why would it have joined them? Nokia beat Samsung previously

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      4. simon walker‏ @walkietally 4 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @SuperJack Samsung in 2011 with Android was much more formidable than they were with feature phones or Symbian. Nokia was late.

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      2. Ronny Arild‏ @ronnya 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent Nokia not going with Android was only good for Microsoft. Nobody else, and certainly not their investors.

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      3. Ronny Arild‏ @ronnya 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @ronnya

        @monkbent Well, on second thought, I guess it was good for Samsung as well...

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      4. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @ronnya

        @ronnya yep

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      1. Paul Bruneau-it-all‏ @ethicalpaul 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent @invalidname good for Nokia management

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      1. Ray MC‏ @raymcdermott 3 Sep 2013
        Replying to @benthompson

        @monkbent I can’t wait for Elop’s new “burning platform” speech when he becomes MS CEO

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