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    1.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 20
      Replying to @ChevalierdesMot

      I didn't fully understand the conversation or the idea.

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    2. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 20
      Replying to @benohanlon

      In other words, you KOMODO BLOCK CHAIN CODE MUST NOT contradict the Protocol, it must be in agreement with the Protocol for KOMODO BlockChains, otherwise your BlockChain is not belong to our KOMODO BlockChains community.

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    3. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 20
      Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @benohanlon

      understood?!😇

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    4.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 20
      Replying to @ChevalierdesMot

      1/2 I think you're suggesting a charter or federation for all Komodo chains? However Komodo's tech can be used by anyone. We don't endorse, partner or verify. This sounds like a form of endorsement and which may incur liability.

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    5.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 20
      Replying to @benohanlon @ChevalierdesMot

      2/2 If we create laws we then need to monitor, enforce and adjudicate. I'm not sure that's what we want to invest resources into. But if you sent to JL777 then he'll make the final decision. I'm only relaying my opinion.

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    6. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 20
      Replying to @benohanlon

      Ben when you write a CODE, it is LAW. Without CODE how can you write a BlockChain program Mate?!😇Every KOMODO BlockChain has its own CODE, hasn't it?! I've already sent the Protocol to JL777c.

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    7.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 20
      Replying to @ChevalierdesMot

      I agree the code is law. Why need more regulation even if voluntary, which we then need to enforce and maintain? For what benefit? I'm happy you've sent it to JL777. You asked my opinion so I'm sharing it with you 🙏🏻

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    8. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
      Replying to @benohanlon

      That is why from the beginning I asked what is the CODE/Constitution of KOMODO tech and also sample chains TAILORED CODE/Constitutions....

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    9.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
      Replying to @ChevalierdesMot

      My understanding is that the chains are already independent. You can even look at @VerusCoin to see for a project that's adopted and developed code. They didn't need to ask permission. And even if we hadn't given permission they could still develop. It is open source.pic.twitter.com/fDRko9ntKZ

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    10. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
      Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

      If you ask me what you call KOMODO tech should CODE the Protcol and declare it openly to the KOMODO BlockChains.....but if the BlockChains demand a change on the Protocol KOMODO tech should obey it. Remember the Protocol is a draft which has to be approved by BlockChains.

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       🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
      Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

      If all Komodo forks and chains voted for a change, they could implement that change on their chain. It would not mean Komodo need implement it. This is because all have their own independent chain. You suggest a governance model we could use. It doesn't mean we should or we must.

      12:55 PM - 21 Aug 2018
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        2.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          And I've read your ideas and done my best to understand them. However, I remain unconvinced. It seems like you don't understand the relationship we have with people who adopt our tech. We give them the tools to build. It's up to them what they build.

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        3. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          Suppose I want to use your tools in such a way which I accept the Protocol I have presented, but I see that there are some tools missing and some of the tools that you provide doesn't help me to keep the guidelines of the Protocol, what shall I do?!

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        4.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          You would need to build the tools that you are missing. Komodo is not under any obligation to build every tool you want or need. You are free to do that.

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        5. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          as long as KOMODO doesn't restrict the tools developed and will be developed according to the Protocol, that is fine. But where is the Protocol?!😇

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        6.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          'Protcol' is a word you're using and I'm not sure how you mean it. If you're asking whether people are free to use it, then yes, it's open source. Available on github.

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        7. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          I have provided the 7 articles (road signs for Chain CODE) of the Protocol to you. When I say the Protocol you should keep it open in front of you, to understand what I mean.

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        8.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          You shared it with JL777 so it is well and good. He may understand. I am fortunate to be working with people who are smarter than me, so I'm happy to focus on my work only and will leave it with you both. Thank you for the talk.

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        9. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          In that case all I can help is already provided via the Protocol, it is up to you to adopt it or not 😇

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        2. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          Suppose KOMODO Chain people want to stick to the Protocol and KOMODO provided tools doesn't allow them or not enough to do that, what shall they do?! You forget that your DICTATE your tools to them, you are the tooles providing CentralPower😇The Protocol won't allow you to be one

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        3.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          That's ridiculous. Komodo isn't dictating anything to you just because you don't have what you want. This makes no sense.

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        4. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          If you tell OneConstitutionForAllTyrant "Such and such LAW of yours for all is against My WAY of LIFE, why do you dictate it to me?" They answer: That's ridiculous. Our Constitution isn't dictating anything to you just because you don't have what you want. This makes no sense.

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        5.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          This is a fallacious argument because Komodo is dictating nothing to you. You're free to create and follow your own laws. Create your own chain. Whatever you want.

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        6. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          KOMODO providing TOOLS - if they are the only TOOLS KOMODO is trying to dictate OneSetOfTools for ALL chains😇 Just like US OneConstitutionForAll

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        2. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          Ben, I am trying to help you be the one to lay the ground for REAL decentralised BlockChains 😇I worked for years as system analyst and designer, especially in Finance Systems 😇I am not talking in the air 😇😇

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        3. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          You can imagine, I was quite well paid for that kind of service 😇 If you consider the Protocol seriously and make business decisions based on it, you won't fail😇

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        4.  🌹 💀 ⏳‏ @benohanlon Aug 21
          Replying to @ChevalierdesMot @VerusCoin

          Next time you're in England I'll take you for a coffee and you can explain it to me in person. It seems likely we're misunderstanding each other over twitter.

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        5. End of conversation
        1. Chevalier des Mots‏ @ChevalierdesMot Aug 21
          Replying to @benohanlon @VerusCoin

          Here is the simple question: Do you provide necessary tools to your KOMODO Chains to implement their #community Constitution according to the Protocol?! That is a GOOD Question for you KOMODO tech developers, so please check your tools if they are in agreement with the Protocol😇

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