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    1. Stefan Esser‏Verified account @i0n1c Jan 7
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      I wonder if this increases the value of patch diffing results. Because P0 will not disclose what the bugs are for a long time which automatically makes patch diffing more attractive 😂https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/1214621661099646989 …

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      Stefan EsserVerified account @i0n1c
      So the new P0 policy is to disclose details only after 90 days even if vendor releases the patch after 20 days. That means people will wait for 70 days before patching because nobody tells them what the bug exactly is and if it is really worth patching 🤷🏻‍♂️
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    2. Ben Hawkes‏ @benhawkes Jan 7
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      Yeah, in the short term that's possibly true. The long-term goal though is to reduce the total time for users to receive a high quality patch on their device, which should ultimately reduce the viability of patch diffing for 1-day. If it doesn't work, we'll rebalance the policy.

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    3. Ben Hawkes‏ @benhawkes Jan 7
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      Replying to @benhawkes @i0n1c

      Related to this, note that we're going to be paying much more attention to variants: "Details of incomplete fixes will be reported to the vendor and added to the existing report (which may already be public)"

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      Ben Hawkes‏ @benhawkes Jan 7
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      Replying to @benhawkes @i0n1c

      Also I suspect quite a few vendors will still want to align disclosure around security bulletins, and that's still an option.

      11:55 AM - 7 Jan 2020
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        2. twiz‏ @lazytyped Jan 7
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          The real deal here is to improve patching, which means for OS/system devs to find a way to make it less painful and for end customers to buy into it. Writing the patch is the trivial part here. Testing and especially deployment are the bits that matter.

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        3. argp‏ @_argp Jan 8
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          as well as the time periods between these

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