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Doctor, nerd cheerleader, Bad Science person, stats geek, procrastinator. Currently an academic at CEBM in Oxford http://www.ebmdatalab.net  ben@badscience.net

Joined June 2007
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    ben goldacre Verified account ‏@bengoldacre 21 Aug 2013

    Thinktank IEA criticises evidence based policy making, by...criticising the evidence for some policies. Seriously. http://bit.ly/171SLcH 

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      1. Ryan Bourne ‏@MrRBourne 21 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre Ben - they are lamenting when the term "evidence based policy" is used to try to shut down debate & cover implicit ideology.

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      2. ben goldacre ‏@bengoldacre 21 Aug 2013

        @RyanCPS that's a very wishful reading of what they actually wrote! http://www.iea.org.uk/in-the-media/press-release/%E2%80%98evidence-based%E2%80%99-policies-are-damaging-uk-policymaking …

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      3. Ryan Bourne ‏@MrRBourne 21 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre well, aggressive use of this term has bugged me for a while. i wrote this today http://www.cps.org.uk/blog/q/date/2013/08/21/scepticism-of-evidence-based-policy-is-a-good-thing/ …

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      5. ben goldacre ‏@bengoldacre 21 Aug 2013

        @RyanCPS you've simply shown the field of policy making is so backward it hears "evidence based policy" and thinks "cherrypick crap stats"

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      6. Ryan Bourne ‏@MrRBourne 21 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre more lament purported 'EBP' often misses trade-offs, secondary effects, implicit assumptions, takes govt intervention 4 granted

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      8. ben goldacre ‏@bengoldacre 21 Aug 2013

        @RyanCPS you're criticising a rather cartoonish, dishonest and incompetent approach to using evidence, not evidence based policy making.

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      1. Gideon Hallett ‏@_gmh_ 21 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre I have a mental picture of someone at the IEA harrumphing: 'Bah! Experts - what do they know?!'

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      2. ben goldacre ‏@bengoldacre 21 Aug 2013

        @_gmh_ whilst insisting that they themselves are experts.

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      1. Harry ‏@harrytlambert 21 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre @jdportes Do you think there are objective truths policy-makers just need to 'find'? Isn't evidence based policy a mismomer?

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      2. ben goldacre ‏@bengoldacre 21 Aug 2013

        @harrylambert1 @jdportes Everyone always aspires to evidence based policy making. Any new movement is just people trying to do that better.

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      1. Uncivil Still ‏@Uncivil_S 21 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre @Puffles2010 Might be nice to have some "thinking-based" think-tankery, some day.

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      2. Richard Ashcroft ‏@qmulbioethics 21 Aug 2013

        @Uncivil_S @bengoldacre @Puffles2010 unfortunately, Jamie Whyte is a thinker; inasmuch as he has a PhD in philosophy...

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      3. Uncivil Still ‏@Uncivil_S 21 Aug 2013

        @qmulbioethics @bengoldacre @Puffles2010 Less excuse for writing balls, then (no, OK, I admit it, I've only read the press release).

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      4. Richard Ashcroft ‏@qmulbioethics 21 Aug 2013

        @Uncivil_S @bengoldacre @Puffles2010 when a non-economist makes "economics" his religion, it's wise to stand well clear...

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      1. Will de Freitas ‏@Will_deF 22 Aug 2013

        @bengoldacre Bristol public policy prof critiques IEA report: "attempt to discredit an alternative voice in society"https://theconversation.com/quackademics-under-fire-as-critical-voices-are-targeted-17381 …

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      2. Dave O'Brien ‏@DrDaveOBrien 22 Aug 2013

        Spot on from @ShodanAlexM “@Will_deF: IEA report: "attempt to discredit an alternative voice in society" https://theconversation.com/quackademics-under-fire-as-critical-voices-are-targeted-17381 …”

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      3. Alex Marsh ‏@ShodanAlexM 22 Aug 2013

        @DrDaveOBrien I succumbed in the end.

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      4. Dave O'Brien ‏@DrDaveOBrien 22 Aug 2013

        @ShodanAlexM it was worth it, that's an excellent response.

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