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    Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 8 Jun 2019

    I genuinely do not understand the argument that social networks would have no problems if you paid to use them. Anti-Vax moms wouldn’t share links? Rumors wouldn’t spread on WhatsApp in India? Why?

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      2. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 8 Jun 2019

        Related - what’s the basis of the idea that subscription services do not look at usage metrics, or try to drive higher use? They care just as much about engagement- they just make money from it with retention.

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      3. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 8 Jun 2019

        I can see how a cost to have an account would affect large-scale automated trolling. But I don’t see what it would do to real people sharing things they believe, or attacking people they decide to hate. How would it affect the Pelosi video? Or WhatsApp rumours in India?

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      4. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 8 Jun 2019

        One problem with the idea of a fee to use these services (for whatever reason): Jio's average monthly revenue per user is $1.80. Those users cannot afford $10/month for WhatsApp. So: what price is a barrier to troll-farms but not a barrier to basic comms for the next billion?

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      5. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 8 Jun 2019

        That is, it’s very hard to see how ‘you should have to pay to use social’ doesn’t just mean ‘no-one in emerging markets can use social’. In turn, that just means you would displace the use to apps made by (Chinese/Brazilian/Iranian/wherever) companies that ignore this whole idea

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      6. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 8 Jun 2019

        TLDR; in the bizarre event that you really could make Facebook charge a fee, everyone in the developing world would just switch to another, free app, made by another (probably Chinese) company, with all the same issues and more. <galaxybrain.gif>

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      2. Lee Fife‏ @colo_lee 8 Jun 2019
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        If I were to make this argument, it would be to put a barrier in front of malicious actors. Same idea as making spam phone calls or emails not free. Once there's a cost to spamming the commons, we're less likely to get invasions of bots and low-paid basement dwellers pushing BS.

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      3. Yury Molodtsov  👀‏ @y_molodtsov 8 Jun 2019
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        Isn’t the notion about fake news and bots affecting elections is all about how few resources someone smart needs to run it? Direct mail isn’t free to send too.

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      2. Sean Thapar‏ @SeanThapar 8 Jun 2019
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        ...but then less engagement, less subscriptions, less revenue. Circular argument.

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      1. Heather Reid‏ @hjreid 8 Jun 2019
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        Isn’t the argument that if no longer dependent on ad revenue there’s less need for the outrage-drives-eyeballs machine thereby dampening the megaphone currently provided to whack-jobs, hate groups, extremists etc. Solid argument? Not sure....but I think that’s the take.

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