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    1. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      8/ Anyways, we even had a prototype pseudonym feature where Mozilla would give you a pseudonymous email address to protect your privacy at web sites where you didn't want to share your real email! It was grand.

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    2. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      9/ Only, past the first couple thousand web sites, adoption was slow. And support internally at Mozilla was far from uniform. This led to deep and painful discussions about how we should grow.

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    3. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      10/ Some wanted Persona to be built deeply into Firefox, so that "Firefox would be the best Persona experience." I saw little value in this. It didn't really change the user experience to be in the browser vs in a JavaScript polyfill library.

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    4. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      11/ We wasted an inordinate amount of time on this in-browser vs. Polyfill issue, and ultimately I failed to convince leadership of my view. This was the proximate cause of Persona's demise. We didn't have leadership support because I failed to make the vision compelling enough.

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    5. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      12/ to this day, many Mozillians will tell you that our mistake was not building natively for Firefox. I think that's even in the official Mozilla postmortem. With all due respect to my Mozillian friends, I think that's ludicrous.

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    6. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      13/ But whatever, because that wasn't the only problem.

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    7. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      14/ We needed identity provider adoption. See, Persona was built to be federated: each domain would vouch for its users, e.g. http://adida.net  vouches for ben@adida.net. Mozilla was bootstrapping provisioning only as an intermediate step, because two-sided networks.

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    8. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      15/ we all knew this was smoke & mirrors until one big email provider came on board and directly vouched for its users using Persona. We should have been more aggressive about that. We should have used the Mozilla muscle to make it happen. We didn't. We opted for neat hacks.

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    9. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      16/ one of my proudest ideas was bridging to Google and Yahoo via OAuth, so that Google and Yahoo users would have close to the ideal experience, never doing an email verification link dance. It was lovely. We even have some great initial strategy conversations with Google.

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    10. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      17/ but that wasn't quite enough to take off. It was a cute hack that didn't indicate to the world at large that Persona was the right bandwagon.

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      Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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      18/ another problem: we assumed everyone wanted a privacy-first identity solution. We were wrong. Web sites wanted -- especially at the time -- your name, your friends, your calendar, etc. We had only an email address. Identity is a transaction, and we were offering too little.

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        2. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          19/ and then there was mobile. We worked out butts off to make it work well on mobile web (and IE 6!!), but native app support was pretty tricky at the time. (With today's native APIs ... Oh we could do so much better.)

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        3. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          20/ so as a web site / app, you could implement Persona, but it would only solve 1/2 your problem. And now the remainder of the problem (native) was harder, because how do you let users log in if they're accustomed to a Persona button on the web, and it doesn't show up on native?

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        4. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          21/ we should have done way better on native. Way better. Oh my goodness did we screw the pooch on that one.

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        5. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          22/ late in the 2nd year of Persona, we vaguely started to understand that we couldn't settle for "now you have 10% fewer passwords," which is unfortunately how it looked. We needed to be either the complete password killer for web sites / apps, or for users.

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        6. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          23/ We started thinking about native app support. We started building a password manager. But by then it was getting too late. Our executive support was running out. And we hadn't gotten a win in a while. A couple executive departures and reorgs sealed the project's fate.

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        7. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          24/ my conclusion about identity systems: you can only make one happen if you have a lot of weight to throw around like FB or Google with a lot of users' data. Or if you've got a unique offering like @Clever that brings sanity to a fragmented K-12 classroom environment.

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        8. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 3. lip 2019.
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          25/ or, if you're Apple, and you can just tell developers what they can or cannot do on the most important computing platform ever *and* you've got a metric ton of users, then yeah you can probably make a privacy-first identity system happen. [Cheers to my Persona teammates.]

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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Ovjeren akaunt @wycats 4. lip 2019.
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          No, web developers at the time wanted to stop thinking about this problem. Persona was "now we have 14 standards". It's always safe to bet against pointless "unifying" standards because developers will do everything in their power to destroy them. See Windows Phone.

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        1. Simon Brooke:: 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇪🇺 🌍::ᛊᛁᛗᛟᚾ‏ @simon_brooke 3. lip 2019.
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          Surely this was the moment to go to the EU with it? Get it mandated as a legally required standard in Europe, and, like #GDPR, the rest if the world will grudgingly and reluctantly follow.

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        1. Steve Wilson‏ @Steve_Lockstep 4. lip 2019.
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          My other Q: Is identity really a “transaction”, or does it manifest that way because the big brands use it as a hook? There are so many ways to frame identity we should probably use different terms for diff operations. Digital Identities tend to be shorthand for relationships.

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