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Senior Writer @NRO. Reaganite, Catholic, Mets fan, ex-lawyer. Opinions 100% my own, but you can share them. Not the Cardinals broadcaster.

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    1. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Chait

      Funny how you discover the virtue of being fair when I apply *your* reasoning against *your* argument. Yet, if you object to conservatives saying "wait, pure, unchecked majoritarianism with no counterbalancing values can go bad places," well, that is the textbook example.https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381687057890873351 …

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      Jonathan ChaitVerified account @jonathanchait
      Ah, yes, you refuted my belief in the right to popular sovereignty by pointing to an Apartheid system of mass disenfranchisement. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381686564531679233 …
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    2. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Nathan Wurtzel

      Or voting to make someone else their property, for that matter.https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/1381686877170851855 …

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      Nathan Wurtzel @NathanWurtzel
      There actually is some truth to this lazy, cynical argument, because conservatives are (supposed to be) for freedom and people should not be able to vote themselves someone else's property. https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381684699681206275 …
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    3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Chait

      I literally do not believe that, and have never argued that, not that it will stop you saying so. Raising the top tax rate is economically self-defeating. Past a certain point, it is also unfair. It is not the same thing as not allowing people to vote.https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381689254921842693 …

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      Jonathan ChaitVerified account @jonathanchait
      Right, see you think raising the top tax rate is in the same category as not allowing people to vote. (Discrimination against the rich!) That's my whole point. That's how the conservative movement sees the world. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381687754225029127 …
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    4. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      What I believe in is, essentially, the classical liberal order championed by Abraham Lincoln. Democracy is one of the components of that, but it has never been the only one.

      15 replies 12 retweets 59 likes
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    5. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Bernstein

      Democracy may or may not be pure majoritarianism, but if you acknowledge the legitimacy of *any* restraints on majorities, Chait's demagogic attack on the conservative critique dissolves. All we're saying is that our system isn't & shouldn't be 100% pure majoritarianism.https://twitter.com/jbview/status/1381694474049486854 …

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      Jonathan BernsteinVerified account @jbview
      If you mistakenly equate democracy with pure majoritarianism, you wind up with all kinds of goofy, irrational conclusions. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381686564531679233 …
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    6. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted

      Black Americans in 1890: US population: 11.9% Georgia 46.7% Alabama 44.8% Florida 42.5% Virginia 38.4% North Carolina 34.7% DC 32.8% Arkansas 27.4% Tennessee 24.4% Texas 21.8% Kentucky 14.4% Missouri 5.6% West Virginia 4.3% Majority in only 3 states. https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1381701082628419591 …

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    7. Jay Bookman‏ @jaysbookman Apr 12
      Replying to @baseballcrank @davidharsanyi @jonathanchait

      1.) The white majorities you describe are far from "white supermajorities," which was your term. 2.) How many of those black Americans were allowed to vote? Very few. 3.) And WHY were they not allowed to vote? Because through voting, they could have ended their own suppression.

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    8. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12
      Replying to @jaysbookman @davidharsanyi @jonathanchait

      They are assuredly supermajorities in several states, and nationally. My point is simply that if you had held a full-participation majority vote in, say, 1890 or 1910 or 1930, Jim Crow would have won at the polls in a lot of places. Which doesn't make it right.

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    9. Jay Bookman‏ @jaysbookman Apr 12
      Replying to @baseballcrank @davidharsanyi @jonathanchait

      If that were true, if Jim Crow would have won a straight-up vote, then why did white leaders feel it was an existential, absolute necessity to stop black people from voting? Why were they so insistent on keeping them from the polls, to the point of lynching, etc.?

      1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
    10. Jay Bookman‏ @jaysbookman Apr 12
      Replying to @jaysbookman @baseballcrank and

      They were clearly nowhere near as confident as the outcome in the moment as you now proclaim from the safety of 150 years later.

      1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12
      Replying to @jaysbookman @davidharsanyi @jonathanchait

      You're actually certain that there was an anti-Jim Crow majority in Arkansas in 1910?

      3:28 PM - 12 Apr 2021
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        1. Matt Mulligan  🌐‏ @mullymt Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jaysbookman and

          We'll never know.

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        1. Andrew Carlon‏ @AndrewCarlon Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jaysbookman and

          During Reconstruction there were numerous cases of poor, generally up-country whites joining blacks in Republican majorities. You could imagine an anti-Jim Crow majority coalition in a lot of places, even if it's not the white voters' principal issue.

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        1. sam freel  🧦‏ @samfreel Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jaysbookman and

          Ah, picking the state that best suit your argument.

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        2. Jay Bookman‏ @jaysbookman Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank @davidharsanyi @jonathanchait

          No, I'm not certain. But I do know the white folks in Arkansas in that era certainly feared the possibility, which is why they were so vicious in not taking that chance. They restricted the franchise to ensure their grip on power.https://bit.ly/3sbocAz 

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        3. Jay Bookman‏ @jaysbookman Apr 12
          Replying to @jaysbookman @baseballcrank and

          I mean, they killed black people who tried to vote. That's a lot of fear about what the vote could do, correct? So whose judgment should we accept, those of the white people at the time who feared what the ballot could do? Or you, who says the problem was too much democracy?

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