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Senior Writer @NRO. Reaganite, Catholic, Mets fan, ex-lawyer. Opinions 100% my own, but you can share them. Not the Cardinals broadcaster.

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    1. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Chait

      Popular democracy is, as I have argued, an essential part of the theory of modern conservatism. I just recognize that it is of less value as an end in itself than, say, individual liberty or fundamental human rights. Do you? https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/not-everyone-should-be-made-to-vote/ … https://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/conservatisms-essential-element-is-experience/ …https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381684699681206275 …

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      Jonathan ChaitVerified account @jonathanchait
      Conservatives fear democracy as a system that enables the many to vote themselves a raise by stealing from the rich via tax and transfer schemes. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381683123805650945 …
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    2. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      If you think pure majoritarianism is paramount, as @jonathanchait seems to imply we should, ask yourself how popular Jim Crow laws were in states with white supermajorities of the population.

      121 replies 20 retweets 95 likes
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    3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Chait

      Funny how you discover the virtue of being fair when I apply *your* reasoning against *your* argument. Yet, if you object to conservatives saying "wait, pure, unchecked majoritarianism with no counterbalancing values can go bad places," well, that is the textbook example.https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381687057890873351 …

      Dan McLaughlin added,

      Jonathan ChaitVerified account @jonathanchait
      Ah, yes, you refuted my belief in the right to popular sovereignty by pointing to an Apartheid system of mass disenfranchisement. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381686564531679233 …
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    4. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Nathan Wurtzel

      Or voting to make someone else their property, for that matter.https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/1381686877170851855 …

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      Nathan Wurtzel @NathanWurtzel
      There actually is some truth to this lazy, cynical argument, because conservatives are (supposed to be) for freedom and people should not be able to vote themselves someone else's property. https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381684699681206275 …
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    5. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Chait

      I literally do not believe that, and have never argued that, not that it will stop you saying so. Raising the top tax rate is economically self-defeating. Past a certain point, it is also unfair. It is not the same thing as not allowing people to vote.https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1381689254921842693 …

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      Jonathan ChaitVerified account @jonathanchait
      Right, see you think raising the top tax rate is in the same category as not allowing people to vote. (Discrimination against the rich!) That's my whole point. That's how the conservative movement sees the world. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381687754225029127 …
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    6. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      What I believe in is, essentially, the classical liberal order championed by Abraham Lincoln. Democracy is one of the components of that, but it has never been the only one.

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    7. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12

      Dan McLaughlin Retweeted Jonathan Bernstein

      Democracy may or may not be pure majoritarianism, but if you acknowledge the legitimacy of *any* restraints on majorities, Chait's demagogic attack on the conservative critique dissolves. All we're saying is that our system isn't & shouldn't be 100% pure majoritarianism.https://twitter.com/jbview/status/1381694474049486854 …

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      Jonathan BernsteinVerified account @jbview
      If you mistakenly equate democracy with pure majoritarianism, you wind up with all kinds of goofy, irrational conclusions. https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381686564531679233 …
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    8. Jonathan Chait‏Verified account @jonathanchait Apr 12
      Replying to @baseballcrank

      Jonathan Chait Retweeted Dan McLaughlin

      This thread began with a tweet by you minimizing the value of DEMOCRACY.https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1381683123805650945 …

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      Dan McLaughlinVerified account @baseballcrank
      Democracy has some value as a good in itself, but it is decidedly secondary to liberty. Its chief virtue is being, in Churchill's words, the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. https://twitter.com/davidharsanyi/status/1381682033307553797 …
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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Apr 12
      Replying to @jonathanchait

      As usual, my point has remained consistent all along. The principle value of democracy is instrumental. It has some value in itself, but other things are more important. We mainly measure the value of democracy as a system by how it delivers those.

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        2. Jonathan Chait‏Verified account @jonathanchait Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank

          Exactly. I think the right to self-government is paramount, even at the expense of my preferred economic system. Your priorities are the reverse.

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        3. Jonah Goldberg‏Verified account @JonahDispatch Apr 12
          Replying to @jonathanchait @baseballcrank

          Are you for removing the un and anti democratic elements of the Constitution? Very hard to vote away first amendment rights — thank God. Democracy is good. But the best parts of liberal systems are the things that are put out of the reach of momentary political passion.

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        1. Bubba Karras‏ @MichaelDKarras Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jonathanchait

          Dan out here courageously complimenting himself.

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        1. Willing to discuss‏ @buffsblg Apr 12
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jonathanchait

          Your position is clear. You want government to serve only certain interests you find important and will limit the input of others if they try to impose literally any other values.

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