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    1. Sean T at RCP‏Verified account @SeanTrende Mar 15
      Replying to @SeanTrende @NumbersMuncher @baseballcrank

      (unless you're just interpreting Christianity as a philosophy like stoicism except it claims a God, in which case fine, but I'm not sure any Christian denomination embraces this (except maybe Episcopalians?))

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    2. Josh Jordan‏Verified account @NumbersMuncher Mar 15
      Replying to @SeanTrende @baseballcrank

      I don't know of any Christian churches that teach the gospels were written by anonymous authors long after Jesus died, but that's the history of it. I've never claimed to speak for any church's beliefs - I'm simply saying that historically isn't not what I was taught growing up.

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    3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 15
      Replying to @NumbersMuncher @SeanTrende

      Wait, what? The historiography of the authorship of the Gospels is a subject of extensive scholarship taken seriously in Catholicism. I last attended a lecture on the topic last week, given by my wife, who has an advanced theology degree and teaches Scripture courses.

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    4. Josh Jordan‏Verified account @NumbersMuncher Mar 15
      Replying to @baseballcrank @SeanTrende

      I have yet to hear a major religion state that the four Gospels were written by anonymous authors long after Jesus' death except for those who are willing to dig into them on their own. I can only speak to the two religions I grew up in and went through, but (1/2)

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    5. Josh Jordan‏Verified account @NumbersMuncher Mar 15
      Replying to @NumbersMuncher @baseballcrank @SeanTrende

      Those are typically subjects that are not spoken of in church, but when people are interested there are outlets for it. Perhaps Catholics teach that, but I have never seen that talked about before with regards to it being a mainstream thing that they teach all members.

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    6. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 15
      Replying to @NumbersMuncher @SeanTrende

      I have absolutely heard homilies discuss not only the differing accounts & emphases of the Gospels, but when & why they were authored.

      3 replies 0 retweets 37 likes
    7. Josh Jordan‏Verified account @NumbersMuncher Mar 15
      Replying to @baseballcrank @SeanTrende

      That has not been my experience growing up through the two different churches and as I've studied this stuff (I find the history behind it fascinating) I have rarely come across anyone who says they were taught it growing up. I'm glad that you've seen it talked about openly.

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    8. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 15
      Replying to @NumbersMuncher @SeanTrende

      This is literally stuff my wife has studied in depth and talks about all the time, and I've been in multiple parishes where the pastor got into the origins of the various parts of the New Testament & what audiences they were writing for at the time. But it bores churchgoers.

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    9. Josh Jordan‏Verified account @NumbersMuncher Mar 15
      Replying to @baseballcrank @SeanTrende

      It bores most people - I just find is fascinating because I love the history behind it all. I was in my 30s before I found out the Gospels were written by anonymous authors and long after Jesus lived. Yes, part of that is on me for not looking, but it was just never mentioned.

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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 15
      Replying to @SurrealEli @NumbersMuncher @SeanTrende

      John is generally assumed to have been written maybe half a century after the death of Jesus, well after the other Gospels. Mark was very likely written before the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD.

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        2. Jeff B. is *BOX OFFICE POISON*‏Verified account @EsotericCD Mar 15
          Replying to @baseballcrank @SurrealEli and

          Markan Priority is pretty irrefutable, especially given how Luke/Acts and Matthew borrow from it. It also is pretty clearly written prior to the end of the Temple and sourced from someone within living memory of Jesus.

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        3. Jeff B. is *BOX OFFICE POISON*‏Verified account @EsotericCD Mar 15
          Replying to @EsotericCD @baseballcrank and

          John is of course the interesting one, as it's not synoptic. I tend to believe the theory that while it obvious was not written by the Apostle John, it descends from his 'school' of Christian practice, which is why it had such prestige despite obviously differing so much.

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        1. Originalism‏ @Originalism1 Mar 15
          Replying to @baseballcrank @SurrealEli and

          James Crossley, an atheist historian, dates Mark to AD~40s.

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