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Senior Writer @NRO. Reaganite, Catholic, Mets fan, ex-lawyer. Opinions 100% my own, but you can share them. Not the Cardinals broadcaster.

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    1. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM @baseballcrank

      I can’t underscore enough that **Dan himself**, to his credit, does not believe there is, as Scott puts it, “material” voter fraud. He’s written this up, formally, not in mere tweets. Do how then can pretextual voter ID be justified? As SL writes, in theory, it’s not terrible,

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    2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack and

      but, in order to justify it, as a “good government” measure, tens of millions wouid have to be spent to *ensure* every voter got such an ID. But that wouid counter its *very point*, ie, to suppress the votes of those most likely not to have a photo ID in the first place.

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      The problem with trying to find good-faith interlocutors on this issue is the progressive rejection, as a matter of principle, of the legitimacy of limiting voters by registration & identification to where they live. Unless you accept that, we're talking past each other.

      5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @baseballcrank @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      But Dan—you have stipulated that voter fraud isn’t a significant public harm. So whst is the *public policy purpose* of the aggressive efforts here the GOP has taken since 2011? The burden is on conservatives/R party officials to justify these efforts. Why do this?

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      So, you reject the concern as a matter of principle, or you accept the legitimacy but insist that government may do nothing to advance it? Answer or there is no point in going further.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @baseballcrank @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      The “concern” has no empirical basis, and is thus in bad faith! The government should prioritize and address *actual public policy problems*, not contrived ones. This is not one—**as you have written.** Not me, not Scott, not Harold, not “the left”—you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      So, you do not acknowledge that it is ever legitimate to require voters to vote where eligible & registered, or you contend that it is literally impossible to do otherwise?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @baseballcrank @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      All of that stuff is easy to work out—the issue is there is hardly any fraud—*as you have written*— and a decade ago you all started this for no public policy rationale other than defense of partisan power. It might indeed disaggregate your own base—regardless, it’s grotesque.

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    9. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      So, you refuse to even begin to debate this issue in good faith. Unsurprising. Which makes debating specifics pointless.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @baseballcrank @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      Lol. Dan—***You wrote that there is no material voter fraud.*** You!!! And that was to your credit—it displayed some intellectual honesty. And now you’re pissed because that utterly undercuts all of this garbage, reveals it to be pretextual. So you’re doing legal hand waving.

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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      So, you contend that every time a court has overturned an election - and this has happened several times - it was wrong? My contention is that there is no *large scale* voter fraud - ie, tens of thousands. Your contention is that fraud is AOK.

      5:22 PM - 13 Mar 2021
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        2. Brian Rosenwald‏ @brianros1 Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson and

          I believe it was Richard Posner in his 7th Circuit opinion on Wisconsin’s voter ID law who said in person fraud is less likely than getting struck by lightning.

          2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
        3. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
          Replying to @brianros1 @baseballcrank and

          Yes, of course.

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        2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

          Dan--you're sounding as desperate as the voter suppressors. It's idiotic and morally grotesque for you to contend that I or anybody here thinks that "fraud is AOK." I pointed out to people here that you opposed stopping "souls to the polls." And, well, this is how you argue.

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        3. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
          Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

          And, in fact, as your article also pointed out, the courts are very good at remedying alleged voter fraud. It hardly ever happens, there's no public policy problem of any significance. You know this--you wrote this.

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