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Senior Writer @NRO. Reaganite, Catholic, Mets fan, ex-lawyer. Opinions 100% my own, but you can share them. Not the Cardinals broadcaster.

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    1. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13

      Richard Yeselson Retweeted Scott Lemieux

      The difference, which @baseballcrank well knows as a capable lawyer, is that the DC government is responding to a harm to indigenous residents. In this case, there is no harm--there is just as @LemieuxLGM shows, a pretextual motive to create a barrier to voting for some citizens.https://twitter.com/LemieuxLGM/status/1370850308172042240 …

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      Scott Lemieux @LemieuxLGM
      LOL at this false equivalency as the NRO's latest iteration of its lifelong support of systematic vote suppression https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/oh-now-you-have-to-show-id/ …
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    2. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @LemieuxLGM

      Just to be clear, it's your position that people voting in a state or district they don't live in is acceptable and not a legitimate concern of government?

      5 replies 2 retweets 21 likes
    3. Scott Lemieux‏ @LemieuxLGM Mar 13
      Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson

      My positions are that 1)in-person fraud is not a material problem in the U.S. 2)Voter ID requirements could be defensible in theory but are plainly being used as a pretext for vote suppression in the case of the U.S.

      2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @LemieuxLGM @baseballcrank

      Dan—**you yourself** affirmed Scott’s #1 in your long NR piece. As for number #2–given that #1 is true, do you actually doubt #2?

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Harold Pollack‏Verified account @haroldpollack Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @LemieuxLGM @baseballcrank

      Yup.

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    6. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM @baseballcrank

      I can’t underscore enough that **Dan himself**, to his credit, does not believe there is, as Scott puts it, “material” voter fraud. He’s written this up, formally, not in mere tweets. Do how then can pretextual voter ID be justified? As SL writes, in theory, it’s not terrible,

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    7. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack and

      but, in order to justify it, as a “good government” measure, tens of millions wouid have to be spent to *ensure* every voter got such an ID. But that wouid counter its *very point*, ie, to suppress the votes of those most likely not to have a photo ID in the first place.

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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
      Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

      The problem with trying to find good-faith interlocutors on this issue is the progressive rejection, as a matter of principle, of the legitimacy of limiting voters by registration & identification to where they live. Unless you accept that, we're talking past each other.

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        1. sam freel  🧦‏ @samfreel Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson and

          Likewise the conservative lie that a voter problem of statistical significance exists (it doesn’t) and b) that their support of these measures isn’t motivated out of desire to restrict voting. Do I need to remind you of the Buckley interview?

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        1. Harold Pollack‏Verified account @haroldpollack Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson @LemieuxLGM

          Broader context in which the GOP in many states has tried to outlaw Sunday voting and similar obvious efforts to hinder minority/Democratic voters, misinformation about voter fraud (and support an openly bigoted demagogue who tried to overturn an election) is.... relevant.

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        2. Harold Pollack‏Verified account @haroldpollack Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson @LemieuxLGM

          My personal entry ticket to this dialogue is specific evidence that conservative interlocutors are actively opposing measures such as barring Sunday voting and other blatant efforts to reverse engineer (so as to hinder) minority voting. There is a long+real history here,

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        3. Scott Lemieux‏ @LemieuxLGM Mar 13
          Replying to @haroldpollack @baseballcrank @yeselson

          Right. Voter ID requirements that were part of legislative initiatives to expand access to the ballot would be different than the actually existing ones that are generally part of a suite of vote suppression measures, most of which don't even theoretically reduce fraud

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        2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

          But Dan—you have stipulated that voter fraud isn’t a significant public harm. So whst is the *public policy purpose* of the aggressive efforts here the GOP has taken since 2011? The burden is on conservatives/R party officials to justify these efforts. Why do this?

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        3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank Mar 13
          Replying to @yeselson @haroldpollack @LemieuxLGM

          So, you reject the concern as a matter of principle, or you accept the legitimacy but insist that government may do nothing to advance it? Answer or there is no point in going further.

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        2. Scott Lemieux‏ @LemieuxLGM Mar 13
          Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson @haroldpollack

          Again, the universal vote-by-mail systems that Congress is seeking to make national require voters to be registered and to vote where they're registered and have relevant security measures. The disagreement is not about the principle but about specific vote suppression measures.

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        3. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Mar 13
          Replying to @LemieuxLGM @baseballcrank @haroldpollack

          Exactly. Dan opposes voting by mail exceot as an exception. If you have a free article to get behind NRs paywall, it’s worth reading because he writes good polemical briefs. But the overall logic is somehow to take the onus away from the right for undertaking this massive effort.

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