I also think Dan is wrong to impugn the motives of the folks at the Bulwark. A lot of them are pushing Democrats and Democratic policy because they believe Republicans need to lose & be punished for subverting democracy. It’s a reasonable argument to say Republicans are the real
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In other words, spite. They were not so focused on us before the election, but there seems to be an escalating effort to generate that conflict.
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You can't tell the difference between "I want Democrats to win out of spite" and "I am going to help Democrats win because I believe the Republicans have become a menace to democracy?"
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It’s principle. Where they disagree strongly with you, Dan, is that they think democracy matters more than those policy areas where they’ve long agreed with you. I’ve heard several of them discuss it quite eloquently.
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My quarrel is with the refusal to even engage with conservative arguments any longer about the structural threats the Democrats & their ideology & methods present to the system.
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Democrats’ ideology poses no threats to the system in the way Republicans’ ideology does. It’s that simple One party is happily tying itself to a guy who courted an insurrection & gaslighted people about an election. The other did not.
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You said it yourself: it's about a guy. As opposed to a systematic, century-long effort to remove the Constitution from constitutional law & empower judicial & administrative discretion & permanent autopilot budgeting to the detriment of the elected branches.
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It's about a guy who revealed a giant cancer in the GOP, and who acted as a test of character failed by millions. I have said - just a few days ago here - that the left has a totalitarian streak. But that notional threat pales next to the *demonstrated damage* of the GOP.
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My issue is with saying "well Trump and Trump and Trump and also Trump and whatabout Trump" and then not even reading the details of the bills they are promoting.
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Elections have consequences. The reason we're all about Trump is that the GOP has been captured by Trump and has taken a clear stand of 100 percent obstruction. What's to discuss? The GOP has no interest in good-faith bargaining over any bill, so why bother arguing?
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Because if you're deciding whether to support or oppose a bill, you should care what it actually contains.
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If I agree with most of it, and I my objections to the parts I don't like will result only in giving ammo to bad-faith attempts to derail it, what's my objective here? No GOPer will act on principle, so, okay, pass it. That's the good-enough solution.
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This is exactly the approach conservatives used to take: Take the good-enough solution, and don't do needless damage to the party that you want to stay in power. Mitch McConnell would approve, and you know he would. But now you want principled policy discussions? Ah, okay.
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