Dave, you know better. Trump's stolen-election stuff was wrong. Wrong on the law, wrong on the facts, wrong in how a president should use power. Do you disagree?
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Replying to @baseballcrank
I don’t love how he handled it. But your hyperventilating over it is ridiculous.
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Replying to @BlueBoxDave
It is not a matter of love. It is a matter of what is true or false.
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Replying to @baseballcrank
So you think there was nothing irregular or wonky in pandemically challenged election? I strongly disagree.
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Replying to @BlueBoxDave @baseballcrank
Come on, man—a massive increase in mail-in ballots + massive drop in invalid ballots + rule changes removing signature requirements etc—that = “most secure election ever.” Obv.
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Replying to @davereaboi @BlueBoxDave
The standard is not “most secure election ever,” it is whether there is competent evidence that the outcome was fraudulent.
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Replying to @baseballcrank @BlueBoxDave
I think it’s clear that those things (which are largely not identifiable after the fact) contributed to influencing millions of votes. If it had made a difference, maybe. I’d call that a kind of fraud because it was absolutely pre-meditated to give this result.
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Replying to @davereaboi @BlueBoxDave
"contributing to influencing," in the absence of any assertion of falsifiable fact, is not an argument tied to evidence or law at all.
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Replying to @baseballcrank @BlueBoxDave
I agree it’s beyond scope of legal challenge. But it’s still clearly intentional fixing of the election on a massive scale. If minority-area polling places were closed early, you’d have no problem admitting there was “fraud” even if we’ll never know if it would’ve changed result.
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They fucked with the mechanics of the vote before Election Day, and they clearly did it to allow for as much fake ballots as possible. Same issue as voter ID—I consider efforts to have no voter ID intention to commit fraud.
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See, I agree entirely with the narrower claim. I wrote about that with the Pennsylvania deadline extension. But that turned out to be a tiny fraction of the margin in PA.
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