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    Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 12 Oct 2020

    1-Christopher Columbus was sent on his voyage by a government that had just thrown off the last vestiges of seven centuries of foreign rule. Of course, that government's response to retaking their own land also included expelling the country's Jews. History doesn't divide neatly.

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      2. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 12 Oct 2020

        2-The Spanish of the 15th century could be seen as both oppressed & oppressors; so could some of the New World people they conquered, such as the Aztecs.

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      3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 12 Oct 2020

        3-Understanding the past requires adjusting to a *lot* of ways in which people saw & understood things differently than we do. That doesn't mean we never judge them for doing things that were mistaken or evil. But it asks us not to oversimplify.

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      4. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 12 Oct 2020

        4-Columbus' great virtue was his brave, exploring spirit. His great accomplishment was that he led the way to the whole history, not only of the USA, but of all of the Americas - all the good, all the bad. He is more properly judged for his individual sins.

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      1. Ken DeRosa‏ @kderosa 12 Oct 2020
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        Who sided with the Muslim invaders it’s important to point out.

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      2. Gruntled History Teacher‏ @Fabius1453 12 Oct 2020
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        These are important points. We often forget the context when evaluating Spanish atrocities in the new world. The conquistadores were people accustomed to violence and antipathy towards “the other.” And sea voyages were incredibly dangerous. Tended to attract some of the...

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      3. Gruntled History Teacher‏ @Fabius1453 12 Oct 2020
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        ...some of the most desperate members of society (look at Cortez getting in trouble with the local governor before he invaded Mexico). These were not the most civilized members of Spanish society. We probably apply some later impressions of European imperialism into this era

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      2. Rany Jazayerli‏ @jazayerli 12 Oct 2020
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        "Seven centuries of foreign rule." Did it ever occur to you that after living in Spain for SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS, they weren't foreigners anymore? If Native Americans kicked every white person out of the country, would you call it "foreign rule"? And we've only been here 400 years!

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      3. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 12 Oct 2020
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        That is, of course, the entire argument I'm responding to. But clearly, the Spanish in 1492 thought in those terms.

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