Pence now talking about the 2009 swine flu, clubbing Biden.
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The COVID discussion was much better turf for Harris than the economic discussion. Pence has her nailed on a bunch of these points.
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Pence staying relentlessly on message on the Green New Deal, which Harris has thus far dodged because her ticket is committed to not talking about the stuff in its own platform.
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Pence is much more effective at taking extra time just by speaking in such measured tones that the moderator is the one who sounds rude by talking over him.
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Harris flat-out lying now about Biden not banning fracking or raising taxes on anyone below $400,000. Assuming they win, these will be...interesting clips to run in 2022.
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Harris "this Administration took the word science off the website" by which she means that, like its predecessor, the Trump Admin wiped the White House website of its predecessor's content. This is a silly hill to die on.
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Pence telling people to look at the Biden website and bills Harris sponsored. Tough for Harris to keep denying both of those, but I assume she will.
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Harris comes hard against trade war with China. Which is a strange place for Democrats to be, but it was a better argument in 2017 than it is right now.
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Pence is now talking about voting records & NAFTA as a bad thing. Pence's own voting record, of course, was staunchly & proudly free trade.
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Pence turns China answer into a COVID answer.
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Harris is trying to do the Democratic line about Trump being obsessed with undoing whatever Obama did, which has long been a not-very-coded racial line. But she garbled it because she is required to refer to "Obama and Biden accomplishments"
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Harris saying foreigners like Xi better than Trump, which...is not a good attack line.
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Now, Harris gets to Russia, and her entire argument about Russian policy is about the 2016 election, and she's cheerleading the Iran Deal. "Unilateral approach" - not doing much to hit Trump things that are not just general GOP things.
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That means Harris is playing into Pence's hands. Trump's weakness is the ways in which he's abnormal, the failures of personal leadership. Drawing general R/D battle lines blunts that.
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This debate has really gone downhill for Harris since we moved off of COVID.
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Harris now talking about the Kayla Mueller case in apologetic terms that just sounds awful.
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Kamala Harris calls John McCain "a great American hero" which we all know is only because he is safely dead.
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With Pence laying almost entirely off Harris' own record, she's got an edge here, & she isn't using it.
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Pence doesn't bother answering the Roe v Wade question, but drills into Harris for anti-Catholic line of questioning.
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Harris on Roe & SCOTUS: Joe is Catholic, the election is near.
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Pence on pre-existing conditions: wait, now let me answer your question about Roe v Wade. (He proceeds to now give a strong answer on life).
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