Page starts by emphasizing that she is there to ENFORCE the rules.
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Pence now using Dr. Fauci as a shield. Talking about the 2.2 million dead projections.
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Page: Why won't Trump follow rules? Pence: the American people can be trusted to, um, not listen to him.
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Pence grabbing more time not by interrupting but by speaking slowly.
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The anti-vax question, Harris: "if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I'm not taking it." Says she would if Fauci says. As if a vaccine would be cleared solely by Trump in his lab.
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Pence now calls out Harris on undermining trust in a vaccine.
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Pence now talking about the 2009 swine flu, clubbing Biden.
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Page: How would you handle presidential disability? Pence: criticize Joe Biden over something that happened 11 years ago. Harris: think of how proud my mom would be.
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Neither VP candidate is willing to admit that their running mate is old.
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Pence praising the transparency of Walter Reed, which is...um....
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Harris claims that Biden "he is honest, he is forthright" which....LOLOLOL has she ever met Joe Biden?
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Pence really should speak a bit faster, he keeps getting cut off just as he is getting to his point. But I know I'm a fast-talking NY lawyer & probably underestimate the value of talking at a slow pace to keep an older audience.
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Harris has a lot of grave vulnerabilities, and thus far, Pence appears hesitant to go after them out of fear of criticism for disrespecting her.
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Harris pledges to repeal the entire Trump tax cut, which runs directly against Biden's claim not to cut taxes on anyone under $400,000.
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Page should really let both candidates answer the same question, before moving to the next one. It leads to them constantly going back to buy time for responses, esp Pence.
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Harris says Pence is lying for repeating what she literally just said about repealing the Trump tax cut.
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Harris now retreating from what she just said about repealing the Trump tax cuts. Now, Harris lies about Biden wanting to ban fracking, which he has repeatedly said he will do.
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The COVID discussion was much better turf for Harris than the economic discussion. Pence has her nailed on a bunch of these points.
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Pence staying relentlessly on message on the Green New Deal, which Harris has thus far dodged because her ticket is committed to not talking about the stuff in its own platform.
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Pence is much more effective at taking extra time just by speaking in such measured tones that the moderator is the one who sounds rude by talking over him.
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Harris flat-out lying now about Biden not banning fracking or raising taxes on anyone below $400,000. Assuming they win, these will be...interesting clips to run in 2022.
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Harris "this Administration took the word science off the website" by which she means that, like its predecessor, the Trump Admin wiped the White House website of its predecessor's content. This is a silly hill to die on.
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Pence telling people to look at the Biden website and bills Harris sponsored. Tough for Harris to keep denying both of those, but I assume she will.
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Harris comes hard against trade war with China. Which is a strange place for Democrats to be, but it was a better argument in 2017 than it is right now.
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Pence is now talking about voting records & NAFTA as a bad thing. Pence's own voting record, of course, was staunchly & proudly free trade.
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Pence turns China answer into a COVID answer.
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Harris is trying to do the Democratic line about Trump being obsessed with undoing whatever Obama did, which has long been a not-very-coded racial line. But she garbled it because she is required to refer to "Obama and Biden accomplishments"
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Harris saying foreigners like Xi better than Trump, which...is not a good attack line.
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Now, Harris gets to Russia, and her entire argument about Russian policy is about the 2016 election, and she's cheerleading the Iran Deal. "Unilateral approach" - not doing much to hit Trump things that are not just general GOP things.
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That means Harris is playing into Pence's hands. Trump's weakness is the ways in which he's abnormal, the failures of personal leadership. Drawing general R/D battle lines blunts that.
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This debate has really gone downhill for Harris since we moved off of COVID.
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