Biden now arguing that Trump was president for his entire tenure in the Senate.
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The law enforcement issues really cut both ways for both of these guys, which is why you get Biden defending cops.
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In Biden's case, his instincts are pro-law enforcement, pro-cops. But his base is pulling the other way.
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Trump on critical race theory training: "I ended it because it was racist...You know it and everybody else knows it."
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Trump all but going into the Animal House speech about talking down the USA
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Biden can't defend left-wing extremism on critical race theory in diversity training, which many corporate employees have been subjected to, so he just flatly denies it exists.
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There are areas Biden is prepared to engage on, but when you get him on anything uncomfortable, he just goes to bald-faced denial.
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Biden: "I was raised in the suburbs"
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Biden "totally opposed to defunding the police"
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Wallace asks Biden if he has talked to Democratic governors or mayors. Biden says he's out of office. So much for being the party.
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Wallace asks Trump to condemn white supremacist groups, Proud Boys. Trump volunteers to condemn, but refuses to concede premise that they're a major source of the street violence. Biden insists that Antifa doesn't exist, it's just an idea.
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Trump's answer on condemning white supremacists was not bad (compared to how he talked about the Klan 4 years ago), but he really should have taken the political opportunity to deliver it in a clean soundbite.
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Trump now mocking Obama & Biden for not filling enough judges. Which they did kinda fall down on, but of course they lost the Senate in 2014.
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Oh no, Biden now responding to attacks on Hunter Biden by talking about Beau.
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Trump succeeded in derailing Biden back to talking about Hunter.
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The saddest thing of all in this debate is that this may be as well as either of these guys could be expected to do.
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Trump actually giving a strong, coherent answer on forest management, which is not the kind of subject you'd typically expect Trump to know anything about.
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Wallace gives a soft lead-in to Biden that doesn't pin him down on whether he wants to ban fracking (he's said he does) or not ban fracking (he's also said he won't)
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Biden says we can get to net zero energy production
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Wallace says he has studied Biden's plan, proceeds to avoid discussing the most controversial parts of Biden's plan. Now we are talking about weatherizing houses.
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Wallace: Answer Trump's question Biden: I don't remember which Wallace: The economy Biden: I support it
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Biden says he's against the Green New Deal, but of course his plan is actually most of the Green New Deal.
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Biden, asked what he'll do to ensure the legitimacy of the election outcome, talks only about Trump accepting defeat.
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I understand why Trump feels that the various efforts to undermine the transition to Trump were a rejection of the 2016 election, but in a debate, the argument does not play well when it's just a string of buzzwords.
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Trump ranting about problems that will happen with the election & mail-in ballots is about the worst ground for him to end on.
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Trump's answer on telling people to stay calm is dreadful. You have to tell people to accept American election results, period.
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