Now, the Court-packing question. "Whatever position I take, that will become the issue." Biden refuses to answer. "I'm not gonna answer the question." "Will you shut up, man?" "Who's on your list?" "We have ended the segment" "Keep yapping, man."
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Now we enter the shape-recognition portion of the test.
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Trump's "he will shut it down again" line is going to draw some blood.
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Biden has some legitimate backwards-looking criticisms of Trump on COVID, but he has nothing even vaguely resembling a coherent forward-looking plan.
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Trump's facial expressions when he's staying quiet while Biden is talking are awful.
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It makes more sense, in terms of their respective bases, to get to the point where Trump argues for opening things & Biden argues for closing them.
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Trump is STILL claiming you'll get to see his tax returns, which is nonsense.
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Now, Trump moves on to better ground on taxes, that a lot of his tax benefits came from Congress, including the Obama stimulus.
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Biden now arguing that Trump was president for his entire tenure in the Senate.
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Much of the reaction to this debate - not the words, but the candidates - depends on whether bullying works. In 2012, Biden beat Ryan by bullying, shouting down fact & reason. Tonight, Trump is bullying. Will it work just as well?
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Biden & Wallace trying to relitigate the 2009-19 economy is not a winning move,
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Now, we get the Hunter Biden fight. Biden flatly denies that Hunter got the $3.5 million.
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Biden: "My son did nothing wrong." But he offers nothing but flat denials.
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"I can't get a word in with this clown." - Biden
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Trump: "Can I be honest?" Wallace: "The answer is no."
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Everybody's gonna be mad at Chris Wallace after this debate, but his position is so impossible, I don't know that any moderator could do a good job with this mess.
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Biden now narrating the two rallies in Charlottesville as a single event.
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Trump now wrapping himself in criminal justice reform, which is ironic for the two candidates' postures even though it has some basis.
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Now, Trump pivots in the same answer to law and order. He's making two solid points, but in a seriously contradictory way.
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The law enforcement issues really cut both ways for both of these guys, which is why you get Biden defending cops.
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In Biden's case, his instincts are pro-law enforcement, pro-cops. But his base is pulling the other way.
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Trump on critical race theory training: "I ended it because it was racist...You know it and everybody else knows it."
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Trump all but going into the Animal House speech about talking down the USA
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Biden can't defend left-wing extremism on critical race theory in diversity training, which many corporate employees have been subjected to, so he just flatly denies it exists.
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There are areas Biden is prepared to engage on, but when you get him on anything uncomfortable, he just goes to bald-faced denial.
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Biden: "I was raised in the suburbs"
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Biden "totally opposed to defunding the police"
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Wallace asks Biden if he has talked to Democratic governors or mayors. Biden says he's out of office. So much for being the party.
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Wallace asks Trump to condemn white supremacist groups, Proud Boys. Trump volunteers to condemn, but refuses to concede premise that they're a major source of the street violence. Biden insists that Antifa doesn't exist, it's just an idea.
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Trump's answer on condemning white supremacists was not bad (compared to how he talked about the Klan 4 years ago), but he really should have taken the political opportunity to deliver it in a clean soundbite.
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