All of Western Europe is on lockdown and yet its health systems are on the verge of collapse or arguably beyond in Italy and Spain. Is it all a conspiracy theory?
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I don't think it's a conspiracy and I do believe it's serious. But all the accounts we've heard of health service problems are anecdotal or unreliable. There's a danger of factoids becoming generally accepted and feeding into decision making.
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Replying to @anomalyuk @pegobry and
"But all the accounts we've heard of health service problems are anecdotal or unreliable." You really think this? Why? Have you read the accounts of physicians & nurses in Italy, Spain, New York, et al.? And noted how they correlate with spiking infection and death rates?
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If you don't know what "anecdotal" means, look it up. Reported death rates *so far* are actually not high enough to cause any practical problems. That's the main reason I'm a little sceptical of the stories. I'm expecting them to get much worse! This is probably just starting.
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“Since the beginning of the month in Nembro we have had between 110 and 120 deaths. In the same period last year 14. This is enough to understand.” https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/quasi-mille-morti-nella-bergamascai-sindaci-ma-sono-molti-di-piu_1346006_11/ …
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Replying to @jneeley78 @anomalyuk and
I don't think the nations of China, Italy, Spain, France and Germany are anecdotes, but what do I know. The data can be extremely misleading since testing policies and death reporting requirements are all over the place. That bodies are piling up is demonstrable. Not anecdote.
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Replying to @pegobry @jneeley78 and
The data we have is alarming, but contains a lot of uncertainty. Normally, that counsels for limited action until there is better data. The problem we have is that the nature & speed of viral pandemics makes it an extremely high-risk move to wait for better data to act.
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Replying to @pegobry @jneeley78 and
Where data cannot answer our questions, we fall back on how humans normally process information: on tradition & instinct. We are wired to act on anecdote & fear when we lack comprehensive data. That wiring has helped us survive as a species since time immemorial.
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Replying to @baseballcrank @pegobry and
Are you practicing "limited action", which here means pretty much going on as normal?
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No, for the reasons I just stated.
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