If you're keeping score at home: "Ukraine, in addition to Russia, also meddled in the 2016 election by helping Democrats with oppo on Trump & his team" - Supported by evidence. "Ukraine, not Russia, meddled in the 2016 election against Democrats" - Unsupported by evidence.
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The Ukrainian "meddling" vs Russian interference are so different in extent and, especially, nature, that it's dishonest to even put them in the same category.
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To your second point, Trump's helpers in Congress are trying to have it both ways: they're implying or outright stating that Ukraine framed Russia on interference and then when called out on it, they retreat and say "all I'm saying is Ukrainians meddled in the election."
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Dan, as far as I can tell the only election-related issues that were initiated by Ukraine (Chalupa) were related to Paul Manafort, and his ties to Trump. These investigations led to Manafort’s conviction and imprisonment. Was there other election-meddling linked to Ukraine?
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So the foremost US expert and every intelligence agency confirms it is Russia - but do disagree and keep spreading propaganda Dan. Hill explained the actions of Ukraine and Russia are dissimilar and yet the disinformation continues.
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Russia may have meddled but neither they or Ukraine hacked the DNC server. It was an inside job. It was China who hacked Hillary's server and exposed CIA human assets in China.
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"Meddlng" is carrying a lot of weight here. The Russians have been meddling in the U.S. elections since 1920. Not exactly groundbreaking news.
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