You can argue both sides of the first, as to the strength of the evidence & the extent & nature of the meddling. The second is based entirely on speculation at best, denial at worst.
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bOtH sIdEs The Russian military illegally broke into DNC servers, stole private property, and then the Russian military weaponized that stolen property against the US in unprecedented fashion. The Trump campaign helped Russia attack Americans by sharing internal campaign data.
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I'll give you a third: Russia meddled in the 2016 election by providing manufactured dirt on Trump to the Hillary campaign - and Hillary actually paid for the privilege. - supported by evidence and common sense.
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The facts would be damning if large media outlets didn't ignore them. The facts are damned when diluted by Looney theories.
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It is beyond a false equivalence to compare the full-blown concerted Russian effort to interfere in the U.S. election in 2016 to the slimmest of insignificant shreds being argued regarding Ukraine. There is no comparison. None.
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Few ppl push Proposition B in good faith. But when ppl, in good faith, try to have a conversation about Proposition A, the most common responses are: 1) “Huh?” 2) “Nuh uh!” 3) “One guy wrote an op-Ed. So?” 4) “How’s Putin’s cock taste?” 5) “We mustn’t talk about that.”

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No one is having a discussion about Ukraine influence in good faith. The government and intelligence agencies of Ukraine DID NOT interfere in the election. A few Ukrainians revealed crimes by Paul Manafort. He is now is prison. That's a good thing.
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Providing oppo research is not the same as what Russia did. Ukraine didn't access voter rolls in multiple states, didn't hack the RNC, phish Manafort/Bannon & leak their emails thru their security agency via fake hacker identity that communicated w Hillarys campaign and wikileakspic.twitter.com/cmHmz8qLwA
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