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    1. Neera Tanden‏Verified account @neeratanden 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson

      The hard left of the time called FDR a millionaire sellout. They called him a slick politician. It’s bizarre how ahistorical this is. FDR would be a billionaire today. You think he’s be accepted on here?

      26 replies 15 retweets 110 likes
    2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @neeratanden

      Hard left? Like the cpusa, which formed a popular front with the Nee Deal? Like Norman Thomas, the democratic socialist successor to Eugene Debs? Not sure what your point is, or what you’re even criticizing, but I’m pretty sure I know the history better than you.

      8 replies 3 retweets 131 likes
    3. Jonathan Chait‏Verified account @jonathanchait 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @neeratanden

      The modern left’s depiction of FDR as a consistent progressive (contrasting with modern neoliberal sellouts) is at odds wi th FDRs actual record and the lefts frequent hostility to him during his presidency

      6 replies 3 retweets 32 likes
    4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @jonathanchait @neeratanden

      Of course he wasn’t a consistent progressive! The failures and inadequacies were many. But he’s the best we’ve ever had. And that is what she’s extolling. Which of course is the right and smart thing to do.

      7 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    5. Jonathan Chait‏Verified account @jonathanchait 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @neeratanden

      Whether or not it’s politically shrewd, the strategy of romanticizing the past to create an invidious comparison with the modern version is ahistorical. The continuities in Democratic Party orientation overwhelm the differences.

      2 replies 4 retweets 10 likes
    6. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @jonathanchait @neeratanden

      Jon, her very point was to point to the continuities. That what her list was—continuities she wished to attach herself and Sanders to. Not really following this.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @jonathanchait @neeratanden

      Ah, you think her point is to criticize centrist Dems today. No doubt true. But everybody constructs their “usable past” and her summary is perfectly fine for just a few sentences. And most Dem candidates don’t mention FDR, even in a more nuanced way. Maybe they should.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Jonathan Chait‏Verified account @jonathanchait 18 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @neeratanden

      I'm not making any points about the political usability of her claims, merely stating that her "usable history" is a myth. It denies the reality FDR mediated between labor and business and was frequently (though not continuously) hated by the left.

      4 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    9. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 18 Nov 2019
      Replying to @jonathanchait @neeratanden

      I mean—sure. But it’s campaign rhetoric, not an academic article. She’s taking that tradition and grafting it to her politics (and Sanders, who has done this many times, so many times that it’s clear he’s a social dem/21st century new dealer when he talks about “socialism.”)

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 18 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @jonathanchait @neeratanden

      If more mainstream Debs want to connect to FDR and the civil rights movement, they ought to extol them too. What is the problem here? She doesn’t have to footnote campaign rhetoric. FDR is available to all.

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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 18 Nov 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @jonathanchait @neeratanden

      I'm just here to note that "mainstream Debs" is a glorious Freudian slip in this context ;)

      6:59 AM - 18 Nov 2019
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        1. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 18 Nov 2019
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jonathanchait @neeratanden

          Damn, I did that again! I try to catch them, but this one slipped thru.

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        1. bachelor of science‏ @Matthew_Lief 19 Nov 2019
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          We need more mainstream Debs.

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