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Senior Writer @NRO. Reaganite, Catholic, Mets fan, ex-lawyer. Opinions 100% my own, but you can share them. Not the Cardinals broadcaster.

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    1. Sean T at RCP‏Verified account @SeanTrende 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank

      Very, very, very few people are talking about gun control in the context of suicides. And I'd have more sympathy for the argument if physician-assisted suicides weren't on many progressive wishlists.

      8 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @SeanTrende @baseballcrank

      PAS is a rather different context than, say, the suicide of a 20 year old friend of mine when, in the midst of a fight with his father, he grabbed dad’s gun and blew his brains out. Just not comparable.

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    3. Sean T at RCP‏Verified account @SeanTrende 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank

      The notion that suicide is okay if/only if it is regulated by the state and performed by a licensed professional is like a parody of technocratic progressive gobbledygook. Also, your scenario still has nothing to do with almost all the serious gun-control provisions on the table.

      4 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
    4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @SeanTrende @baseballcrank

      I don’t think you’re going to get very far juxtaposing the pain of the terminally ill with anxious teenagers and depressed middle aged people taking their own lives. And access to guns makes suicide easier.

      2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    5. Sean T at RCP‏Verified account @SeanTrende 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank

      I don't think you get very far arguing suicide is some pressing public health concern unless the gov't signs off that you've really thought about. Personally I think you have a right to end your life as you see fit, so my objection is more to the public concern 1/

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    6. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @SeanTrende @baseballcrank

      I think you ought to read @hilzoy thread on this subject, Sean, before you go on. These are incommensurate phenomenon.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. hilzoy‏ @hilzoy 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @SeanTrende @baseballcrank

      Really, just reading the Oregon law FAQ would be enough. At least it would preclude further idiocy about "a parody of technocratic progressive gobbledygook."

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    8. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @hilzoy @SeanTrende @baseballcrank

      Yeah—actually “medical ethics” at a high abstraction is your (ST/DM) most compelling argument (although good luck arguing that with Hilary Bok.) But you don’t really seem to know the empirics of how these laws work—generalities are not persuasive.

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    9. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @hilzoy @SeanTrende

      I realize we disagree about whether private or public health insurers ever have, or would ever act on, incentives to reduce spending on care. Not persuaded that we have conclusive global data, drawn from a large sample size in consistent conditions, proving that a non-issue.

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    10. hilzoy‏ @hilzoy 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson @SeanTrende

      In Oregon, they literally collect and publish data from *everyone who requests PAS.* This might be an inadequate sample size, but if it is, that shows that no sample size is adequate, given the relatively small number of people who request assistance in dying.

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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 8 Sep 2019
      Replying to @hilzoy @yeselson @SeanTrende

      The link you sent dealt with a few hundred cases, which is hardly a powerful enough dataset to negate what we already know about human nature & institutions & how both behave.

      10:45 AM - 8 Sep 2019
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        2. hilzoy‏ @hilzoy 8 Sep 2019
          Replying to @baseballcrank @yeselson @SeanTrende

          Again, that's everyone who has requested PAS from Oregon during the 20 years since the law was enacted. It's hard to see how it could have been *more* powerful.

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        3. hilzoy‏ @hilzoy 8 Sep 2019
          Replying to @hilzoy @baseballcrank and

          Obviously, I used Oregon because its law has been on the books for considerably longer than other states, and it has very good reporting requirements, precisely because they wanted to know who would end up using PAS. Other states also do this, though.

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