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Senior Writer @NRO. Reaganite, Catholic, Mets fan, ex-lawyer. Opinions 100% my own, but you can share them. Not the Cardinals broadcaster.

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    1. Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @cjane87 and

      I'd be interested to know if you defend this exceptionally broad assertion, which is presented on the thinnest of evidence in the headline essay, and on what basis:pic.twitter.com/WFBABRl3kN

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    2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @baseballcrank @cjane87 and

      It’s complicated to express on twitter, but basically: yes and no. Yes, in that, if you focus on Virginia, the largest and wealthiest colony (wealth derived from slavery), I expected the thesis sentence you highlighted to flow right out of Morgan’s great work, American Slavery

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    3. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

      American Freedom: Virginian planter elites consolidate an ethos of egalitarianism and freedom—but only for white people. Black slaves are demarcated from it, while re-inscribing feared poor whites within a universalism fatally limited by racist hierarchy. This is Morgan’s great

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    4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

      insight and it’s been picked apart around the edges, but few scholars of early America doubt its resonance. In fact, if anything, Morgan undersold his own argument by refusing to accept that Jefferson, Madison and other slave owning elites were fully conscious of the

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    5. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

      contradiction of their revolutionary ambitions. So, re Virginia especially, the state that embodied the colonial America—yes, without question. But no, in that I think the rest of the graf exaggerates the efficacy and normative decency, for lack of a better term, of the British

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    6. Josiah Neeley  🤔‏ @jneeley78 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

      Rich, it sounds like you are arguing for an importantly different claim from the one Dan highlighted.

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    7. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @jneeley78 @baseballcrank and

      Read it thru, Josiah. I think the paragraph went in a different direction than I thought its thesis statement would take it.

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    8. Josiah Neeley  🤔‏ @jneeley78 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

      I did read it very carefully. It starts with an argument that is very weak (colonists were worried that Britain would end the slave trade) and then shifts into an argument that doesn’t support the original claim (wealth from slavery gave them the power to rebell).

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    9. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @jneeley78 @baseballcrank and

      I agree about the first part. That seems to be Schama’s argument, but that’s been challenged. But the wealth was no small thing. Surely, that was part of the calculation these very shrewd tough minded men made.

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    10. Josiah Neeley  🤔‏ @jneeley78 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @yeselson @baseballcrank and

      There’s the rub. The wealth empowered revolution point would be worth exploring, but it doesn’t support the thesis, which is a problem. And as far as I can tell the thesis is unsupportable, which is also a problem.

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      Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 19 Aug 2019
      Replying to @jneeley78 @yeselson and

      "Enabled" vs "motivated" is a very large distinction.

      5:34 PM - 19 Aug 2019
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        2. Karl Smith‏Verified account @karlbykarlsmith 19 Aug 2019
          Replying to @baseballcrank @jneeley78 and

          Hard to see how enabled either. Plantation economics depend on trade which the war interrupted. Further its manpower was slaves which rarely served and were promised freedom if they joined the British. All told upto 10x as many slaves attempted to join the Brits as 1/x

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        3. Karl Smith‏Verified account @karlbykarlsmith 19 Aug 2019
          Replying to @karlbykarlsmith @baseballcrank and

          Whites joined the Continental Army. Maybe make that more than 5X. So, the whole thing was made more difficult by slavery. That was in part why most of the Continental Army was drawn from New England 2/2

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