One thing I find fascinating about the intra-right debate is that more or less everyone now pretends they weren’t all obsessive, devoted, zealous fans of George W Bush, which by and large they were, at least until he became very unpopular.
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Replying to @chrislhayes
Huh? The opponents of the Iraq War didn't love Bush until the war became unpopular.
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Replying to @SethAMandel
You’re saying conservative opponents of the war? They were a tiny, rump sliver of the coalition.
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Replying to @chrislhayes @SethAMandel
How large do you suppose the group debating between Sohrab and David are? I’d wager they could fit into a modestly sized Arby’s. We could name 90% of them.
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Replying to @wrdcsc @SethAMandel
I mean it’s the nature of these kinds of debates, wherever they are on the ideological spectrum, to take place among a rather small set.
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But I’m both elite opinion and mass opinion among conservatives Bush was an extremely popular figure
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Bush's domestic agenda always had aspects that were controversial on the Right, but the reality of 2001-05 is that a lot of the criticism was muted because of the focus on war. The result was a lot of suppressed frustrations that came roaring back later.
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Exactly. High approval within party? Sure. "Obsessive, zealous fans"? Cmon. By that standard, Chris, couldn't you say that about most presidents?
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I think you guys are memory-holeing a whole lot of rhetoric about the guy, who, above all else, triggered the libs and was fighting a war for civilization’s survival and was thus great.
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Replying to @chrislhayes @SethAMandel and
As a team player for 7+ years, defending the admin often against folks on the right, and on his reelect, I wish this were the case, but it was not. See: Medicare Part D, EISA, NCLB, etc. Clinton maintained much higher/steadier partisan numbers.
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One of the reasons RedState was founded in 2004 and found an audience was a sense that small-government grassroots conservatism lacked a voice to push back against Part D, NCLB, etc. I first got promoted to the RS frontpage fighting against Harriet Miers.
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