2. Bear in mind that modern American conservatism - grounded in classical liberalism - is distinct from legitimist throne-and-altar European conservatism, though both share some important commonalities; fascism rejects both variants & sees them as its first enemy.
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3. "Were the Nazis socialists?" arguments are historically interesting (there were *reasons* why they put the word socialist in the name of the party, it wasn't just a typo, & they weren't the last people to sell socialism & deliver tyranny), but it's actually not the key divide.
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4. The more crucial point is that conservatism's view of individuals, communities, state power, laws, traditions, & institutions places it on one side of a divide w/progressivism, socialism, fascism & Communism on the other.
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5. Bingo. No amount of "actually, the Nazis were not my kind of socialist" can translate into "the Nazis were really into small government." https://twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/1112729581222531072 …
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6. Fascism in any of its forms is both collectivist & corporatist: like socialism & progressivism, it sees business & economic activity as something to be controlled top-down by the state & directed to the ends the state sees as good.
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7. True, Nazi Germany gave more leeway to big business that produced private profit than did the USSR. This is also why, unlike Stalin, it was able to arm its own military & feed its own people w/o begging off its allies. Both systems, however, rested on forced labor & worse.
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8. Which brings us to the deeper problem of progressives arguing that fascists were not really socialists: the Communists indisputably were, they caused even more death & misery over more space & time, & some of their regimes are still in business. Collectivism is ghastly.
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That sounds fair and fine. (Even while west-european conservatism is way more statist)
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