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Tony Arcieri

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Co-founder @iqlusioninc, formerly @square @chain. Cryptography dilettante, polyglot programmer, key management wrangler, and infrastructure security specialist

San Francisco, CA
tonyarcieri.com
Joined May 2007

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    Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 1 Mar 2015

    Unless you're a PhD professor at Stanford, Cornell, etc. you probably don't want to be designing your own distributed consensus algorithms

    4:47 PM - 1 Mar 2015
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      2. Professor Hantzen‏ @phantzen 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @Hyperledger Wrong focus. If something works, the creators academic past is irrelevant. Eg, what's Satoshi's?

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @phantzen

        .@phantzen @Hyperledger @mongoosenewyork Satoshi built a prototype, not a finished solution

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Professor Hantzen‏ @phantzen 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @Hyperledger @mongoosenewyork Satoshi created something that fundamentally works, and nobody can even confirm he is not a dog.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @phantzen

        @phantzen @Hyperledger @mongoosenewyork 10 minute transaction times… “it works”!

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      6. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @phantzen @Hyperledger @mongoosenewyork actually: https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/765.pdf 

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      2. Nikita “Running 10 mins late” Borisov‏ @nikitab 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule good thing no one told Lamport that!

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @nikitab

        @nikitab I apologize if my "etc" wasn't inclusive enough, mainly wanted to make the point that it's pretty much a PhD-level problem

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      4. Nikita “Running 10 mins late” Borisov‏ @nikitab 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule very true. Anyway, Lamport certainly could be a professor at Stanford etc if he wanted to

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      5. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @nikitab

        @nikitab yeah I would consider a TLA+ proof (or equivalent) a sort of minimum barrier to entry for a new distributed consensus algorithm

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      2. Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc‏ @jeffcliff1 26 Apr 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule ...unless you want to become a PhD. Then you might have to get your hands dirty and write to learn why these systems fail and how.

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 26 Apr 2015
        Replying to @jeffcliff1

        @jeffcliff1 I definitely agree people who want to design consensus algorithms should get their hands dirty... writing TLA+

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      2. Linus Nordberg‏ @ln4711 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule does (certificate) transparency gossiping count as a distributed consensus algorithm?

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      3. Tony Arcieri‏ @bascule 3 Mar 2015
        Replying to @ln4711

        @ln4711 I have seen nothing but handwaving about what CT gossip actually is

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      1. Tasha‏ @TashaDrew 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule dude cmon I've been hacking on ruby for like 3 weeks and I've totally got this.

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      1. Andrew Miller  🦓 🦓 🦓‏ @socrates1024 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule so, "don't roll your own crypto" should catch on for distributed computing as well (probably also mechanism design too)

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      2. mik‏ @mik235 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule elitism! It's not like theirs are perfect either :)

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      3. azet‏ @a_z_e_t 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @mik235

        @mik235 @bascule everything can be improved. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ms705/pub/papers/2015-osr-raft.pdf …

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      1. Larry Diehl‏ @larrytheliquid 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule @socrates1024 i met tony for the second time at party recently and he knew about your verified merkle trees :)

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      1. cam  🙂‏ @campedersen 1 Mar 2015
        Replying to @bascule

        @bascule *unless you want to

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